Originally posted by RIGHTONMYSIDE'
HULK IS BASICALLY MARVELS PINNACLE STRONG GUY WHEN WRITTEN TO HIS OPTIMUM CHARACTER POTENTIAL HE IS WITHOUT EQUAL IN THE MORTAL HERO DEPARTMENT. ENCHANTMENTS OR MAGIC MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BETTER HIM HOWEVER HE CAN BECOME MORE POWERFUL BY RAGE AND THAT S WAHT MAKES HIM TOP OF THE TREE
I R TEH CAPXORS!!
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!Did you ever find proof the Crew was amped up yet?
Well god damm we are now making progress. I did not read Thor #443 but still would like to see scans of this.
Sasquatch sure is taking a beating in Omega Flight though. Their dragging him around Canada like a mutt.
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
Did you ever find proof the Crew was amped up yet?Sasquatch sure is taking a beating in Omega Flight though. Their dragging him around Canada like a mutt.
It ain't over yet.
Also, as Mungi has pointed out a number of times:
1) A non-jobbing crew is no joke (I've finally come around on that argument)
2) Sas had a mental breakdown during the fight in OF #1, then got clobbered with an exploding tanker truck
This, along with the events in OF #2 and other things I've seen/read as far as previews for OF #3, leads me to believe that:
3) Tanaraq has likely already taken over control from Walter, and is biding his time until he can get the crew in position for some serious retribution
The flip side of that argument is this: why would Tanaraq allow himself to be degraded by the crew in such a way? I'm not sure, but based on the preview for OF #3 that I've seen, I suspect Tanaraq is luring the Crew to the Realm of the Great Beasts, where his power will be infinitely greater than theirs...or where their deaths will allow him to manifest fully (rather than as an avatar) on earth...
Either way, yes Sasquatch took a beating, but I suspect it was largely CIS (point #2 above).
Originally posted by shksprtxI don't think Sasquatch is influenced by Tanaraq anymore. Wolverine #53 helps prove this. And Sasquatch getting beat up alot lately also makes me believe this. I mean Tanaraq never comes out to play when his chips are down. Well atleast 99% of the time. Hopefully this series will clear this up.
It ain't over yet.Also, as Mungi has pointed out a number of times:
1) A non-jobbing crew is no joke (I've finally come around on that argument)
2) Sas had a mental breakdown during the fight in OF #1, then got clobbered with an exploding tanker truck
This, along with the events in OF #2 and other things I've seen/read as far as previews for OF #3, leads me to believe that:
3) Tanaraq has likely already taken over control from Walter, and is biding his time until he can get the crew in position for some serious retribution
The flip side of that argument is this: why would Tanaraq allow himself to be degraded by the crew in such a way? I'm not sure, but based on the preview for OF #3 that I've seen, I suspect Tanaraq is luring the Crew to the Realm of the Great Beasts, where his power will be infinitely greater than theirs...or where their deaths will allow him to manifest fully (rather than as an avatar) on earth...
Either way, yes Sasquatch took a beating, but I suspect it was largely CIS (point #2 above).
Don't really matter how you look at it Sasquatch is taking a major beating. He's being used as a punching bag so far in Omega Flight.
And about the tanker explosion. If I remember right Sasquatch saw the truck coming but wasn't fast enough to elude the attack.
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
I don't think Sasquatch is influenced by Tanaraq anymore. Wolverine #53 helps prove this. And Sasquatch getting beat up alot lately also makes me believe this. I mean Tanaraq never comes out to play when his chips are down. Well atleast 99% of the time. Hopefully this series will clear this up.Don't really matter how you look at it Sasquatch is taking a major beating. He's being used as a punching bag so far in Omega Flight.
And about the tanker explosion. If I remember right Sasquatch saw the truck coming but wasn't fast enough to elude the attack.
Certain strong hints in OF #2 and early previews for OF #3 seem to indicate rather bluntly that Tanaraq is still in the picture. We won't know for sure until next month or two, but the hints are there.
As for the tanker, whether he saw it coming or not, it was too late as he had had a mental breakdown remembering the death of his teammates and was momentarily unable to act.
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
Did you ever find proof the Crew was amped up yet?Sasquatch sure is taking a beating in Omega Flight though. Their dragging him around Canada like a mutt.
Whoops yeah, here's 1 scan so far I scanned awhile ago. Here's Thunderball talking about he gained his power from the dimensions and augmented his powers. Keep in mind when they were banished to this dimension they had no powers thanks to Loki. He uses a "Trans-dimensional power siphon, patterned on my altered cell-tissue and programmed to begin a search-retrieve sweep should my bio-reading alter". This goes with the scan I posted awhile ago that mentioned Thunderball was growing by the second.
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/AlphaFlight119-14.jpg
Meh! It's good for the story, I don't mind.
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
I don't think Sasquatch is influenced by Tanaraq anymore. Wolverine #53 helps prove this.
Way back in Alpha Flight #119 it mentions something is taking over Walter's body once again and this was after he switched bodies with Snowbird. Ummm...Loeb is not the best for contunity and here's a quote from Scott Kolins the artist from Omega Flight after reading Wolverine #53
http://forum.alphaflight.net/viewtopic.php?t=2080&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45
Scott Kolins: "Glad most of you are really enjoying #2. #3 is going to crank things up another notch - brace yourselves!
BTW- has anyone else seen the Sasquatch appearance in Woverine #53? WTF? I'm going to have a talk with that Loeb fellow."
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
And Sasquatch getting beat up alot lately also makes me believe this. I mean Tanaraq never comes out to play when his chips are down. Well atleast 99% of the time. Hopefully this series will clear this up.
Tanaraq doesn't come out always, but his influence as noted with Walter is always with him and apparently Tanaraq is now in a cage in the Realm of the Beasts and is as big as a building.
http://www.alphaflight.net/news_archives/of3_11-12.jpg
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
Don't really matter how you look at it Sasquatch is taking a major beating. He's being used as a punching bag so far in Omega Flight.
Well considering the Crew was said to be augemented noted on the Marvel website, it's most likely Tanaraq influencing them. As it was him that summoned them to the ROM and enter the Realm of the Beasts. Most likely to free him.
http://www.marvel.com/news/-1.970
"Not soon after we learn that some of Canada's new residents are none other than an amped up Wrecking Crew!"
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
And about the tanker explosion. If I remember right Sasquatch saw the truck coming but wasn't fast enough to elude the attack.
Sasquatch has taken far worse attacks and shurgged it off, it was done for the story.
We know for a fact the Crew is going to get it eventually. Heck in OF #4 the Crew will be taking on Omega Flight themselves. Their hardly weak now so them beating Sasquatch is moot. Especially considering the Crew in the past has beat Thor and nearly killed Hercules even put him in a coma.
Originally posted by King_MungiUmm...where does it say he had augmented power? Or any of them had augmented power? Loki took the power that he was suppose to get. Thunderball took it back but there is no indication he took back more than they had.
Whoops yeah, here's 1 scan so far I scanned awhile ago. Here's Thunderball talking about he gained his power from the dimensions and augmented his powers. Keep in mind when they were banished to this dimension they had no powers thanks to Loki. He uses a "Trans-dimensional power siphon, patterned on my altered cell-tissue and programmed to begin a search-retrieve sweep should my bio-reading alter". This goes with the scan I posted awhile ago that mentioned Thunderball was growing by the second.http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/AlphaFlight119-14.jpg
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
Umm...where does it say he had augmented power? Or any of them had augmented power? Loki took the power that he was suppose to get. Thunderball took it back but there is no indication he took back more than they had.
Like I mentioned above, they had no powers at all Thunderball got supercharged from the dimension and in the previous issue was revealed Thunderball was growing stronger by the second in Alpha Flight #118. I posted that scan earlier here, somewhere in the pages.
Even in the fight with Alpha Flight Wrecker was absorbing their attacks and growing stronger as well, such as absorbing Aurora's lightening.
Originally posted by King_Mungialternate reality who cares. 616 hulk will beat the fur off this big foot wannabe
Sasquatch has not been depowered EVER, so why the hell are all you saying that claiming there is a classic and a current version? He is still Tanaraq's avatar and as noted often holds back his strength due to fear losing control.Even Sasquatch has beaten an alternate reality Hulk, so why are all you simply discrediting him? I assume lack of knowledge of the character
Originally posted by mighty adam
alternate reality who cares. 616 hulk will beat the fur off this big foot wannabe
The Alternate reality was created by Llan, an abstract being and yes we all agreed that Hulk wins, BUT when they fought in 616 Hulk didn't beat "the fur off him" and that was before his rage and pain strength increase upgrade or reveal.
Originally posted by King_MungiWell I don't think the rage or pain strength increase helped him very much in his fights with Juggernaut or Wrecking Crew. I mean I don't think we see it enough to be even a proper ability or if he can even do it.
The Alternate reality was created by Llan, an abstract being and yes we all agreed that Hulk wins, BUT when they fought in 616 Hulk didn't beat "the fur off him" and that was before his rage and pain strength increase upgrade or reveal.
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
Well I don't think the rage or pain strength increase helped him very much in his fights with Juggernaut or Wrecking Crew. I mean I don't think we see it enough to be even a proper ability or if he can even do it.
The X-Men apperance was badly written and ignored basic power sets and abilities from members of Alpha Flight from Snowbird to Guardian. It was poorly written, and Sasquatch barely even fought the crew, it was basically all the other members of AF we barely even saw Walter at all.
Originally posted by masterbruce
what happened to Tanaraq? why doesnt Sas become Tanaraq in this battle?
Like I said in the other thread he doesn't instantly become Tanaraq and all the time. Sometimes he can change in seconds, other times never.
Sasquatch doesn't even want to releash Tanaraq, so he often holds back his strength [admitted it in AF #12], but Tanaraq takes control if Walter's soul is weakened.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Like I said in the other thread he doesn't instantly become Tanaraq and all the time. Sometimes he can change in seconds, other times never. Sasquatch doesn't want to releash Tanaraq, so he often holds back his strength [admitted it in AF #12], but Tanaraq takes control if Walter's soul is weakened.
so I don't get why you're saying in this battle Tanaraq doesnt take over Walter but it does in the battle against Logan?
