Magneto and Storm versus Human Torch and Iceman!

Originally posted by jrodslam
I figured Torch would be. Just wondering because of the heat.

Would Mags be able to shield him and Storm from a supernova? I think hes done it before and Sue shielded the team and she started to feel the heat within. I know the shields are different, but shields nonetheless. Wouldnt that put a strain on Mags power/energy?

Also, the nova wouldnt destroy Iceman as a whole. Just his body.

yeah it would strain Magneto and Storm, however he could also try to form a metallic shield outside of his magnetic shield as further barrier.

If Torch went supernova, Iceman would be killed and he can't change into mist because the wide area radius of the nova blast would have heated up all water molecules in the area so that they have dehydrated, leaving nothing for Iceman to seep his consciousness to.

Originally posted by Soljer
Show me where Magneto has ever pulled a molecule of H2O apart. Please.

Not to mention the fact that Magneto wouldn't ever even be able to FIND Bobby.

Magneto controls electromagnetism...he can unleash a electromagnetic storm that would mess up the electron bonds of any atom it hits, I doubt he could pinpoint H2O though so he would pretty much destroy anything his power hits, including Storm and everything else.

He doesn't need to find Bobby if he unleashes a planetary wide attack (by amping himself with all sources of electricity) that hits everything. This'll prob leave Magneto completely powerless but Bobby will already be dead...along with everything else.

Originally posted by masterbruce
If Bobby tries to hide in mist form (which takes alot of energy out of him and leaves him pretty much powerless and weak)

no it doesnt 😕

Only reason that happened (ONCE) was because he blew up in HUMAN form and then went into mist. If he is in Iceform it takes nothing from him 😬

Originally posted by masterbruce
Magneto controls electromagnetism...he can unleash a electromagnetic storm that would mess up the electron bonds of any atom it hits, I doubt he could pinpoint H2O though so he would pretty much destroy anything his power hits, including Storm and everything else.

He doesn't need to find Bobby if he unleashes a planetary wide attack (by amping himself with all sources of electricity) that hits everything. This'll prob leave Magneto completely powerless but Bobby will already be dead...along with everything else.

Um so what is Bobby doing as Magneto amps up, taking a nap?

The possibility of Magneto getting a win is there however Bobby imo would take the majority in an on the spot battle.

The question is...

Can Bobby's young and fastreacting attitude outspeed Magneto's years of experience? It's their speed of reaction that determines the fight.

Originally posted by masterbruce
yeah it would strain Magneto and Storm, however he could also try to form a metallic shield outside of his magnetic shield as further barrier.

If Torch went supernova, Iceman would be killed and he can't change into mist because the wide area radius of the nova blast would have heated up all water molecules in the area so that they have dehydrated, leaving nothing for Iceman to seep his consciousness to.

If Magneto did decide to put up the extra shielding, it would be melted away like plastic on a stove, in a nova.

Only Bobbys body woud be destroyed. Remember mb, that Iceman could store his conscious INSIDE of Torch and them come out when its safe to or just borrow some moisture from him.

Originally posted by Soleran
Um so what is Bobby doing as Magneto amps up, taking a nap?

The possibility of Magneto getting a win is there however Bobby imo would take the majority in an on the spot battle.

Magneto doesn't amp up during battle, obviously he'd get killed.

He amps up during his 10 minute prep time...during which he could get every sentinel and computer controlled weapon to target Human Torch and Iceman.

Originally posted by BaptizedAtheist
The question is...

Can Bobby's young and fastreacting attitude outspeed Magneto's years of experience? It's their speed of reaction that determines the fight.

THat's a good question. I understand a full potential Iceman could beat Magneto, but I don't think the current Iceman can. Magneto's too smart, too ruthless, and too powerful.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Magneto doesn't amp up during battle, obviously he'd get killed.

He amps up during his 10 minute prep time...during which he could get every sentinel and computer controlled weapon to target Human Torch and Iceman.

10 minutes to throw out a planet wide attack that would bust molecular forces?

Bobby solo's the team for victory after victory, he controls the kinetic energy, that's pretty much everything.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Magneto doesn't amp up during battle, obviously he'd get killed.

He amps up during his 10 minute prep time...during which he could get every sentinel and computer controlled weapon to target Human Torch and Iceman.

Al that in 10 min, mb?

Then can Torch ask Reed for help by asking for a gadget?

If only Iceman can dehydrate Magneto, it doesn't matters if he is full potential😉

Originally posted by jrodslam
Al that in 10 min, mb?

Then can Torch ask Reed for help by asking for a gadget?

no, Torch can't ask for help from Reed.

Magneto could take control of all sentinels in under 10 minutes, as he can link to their circuitry telepathically.

Originally posted by BaptizedAtheist
If only Iceman can dehydrate Magneto, it doesn't matters if he is full potential😉

lol 😈

Magneto is going to look REALLY old all dehydrated.

Originally posted by BaptizedAtheist
If only Iceman can dehydrate Magneto, it doesn't matters if he is full potential😉

When has Iceman ever deydrated someone of Magneto's power, a being with full control of the electromagnetic forces...forces that trump thermal energy control that Iceman possesses.

Originally posted by masterbruce
When has Iceman ever deydrated someone of Magneto's power, a being with full control of the electromagnetic forces...forces that trump thermal energy control that Iceman possesses.

LOL kinetic energy, let's see he just stops all motion in Magneto's body, cool huh.

Cool, I'm so clever, ok not so much.

Originally posted by Soleran

Bobby solo's the team for victory after victory, he controls the kinetic energy, that's pretty much everything.

Bobby controls thermal energy.

Magneto controls Electrogmagnetic energy, which would include thermal energy.

Magneto >>> Iceman

Originally posted by masterbruce
no, Torch can't ask for help from Reed.

Magneto could take control of all sentinels in under 10 minutes, as he can link to their circuitry telepathically.

No fair. If Mags can get help from Sentinels, why cant Torch get help from Reed. That IS his brother-in-law.

Magneto can't stabilise the waters in his body?

Although Magneto’s primary power is control over magnetism, he can also project or manipulate any form of energy that is part of the electromagnetic spectrum, including visible light, radio waves, ultraviolet light, gamma rays, and x-rays.

Magneto has also exhibited powers of astral projection and telepathy.

Torch and Iceman are done.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Is this something Magneto CAN do, or has he actually caused a electromagnetic storm that broke down the magnetic bond of every atom that its hit?