Raw wasn't terrible, but if not for Kevin Owens and Nia Jax doing what she did, it would have been much, much worse.
Even the New Day aren't what they once were.
And Smackdown again is a solid, entertaining show. Good matches, a far better women's division than RAW (which amazes me), and a good main event.
I really hope Miz doing his "I am the main event" is part of a push that will actually take him there. Apart from Styles, he's the primary heel on Smackdown, even more than Bray I would argue.
Originally posted by -Pr-Damn, Pr you really like some Miz. I agree on Smackdown being the better show 🙂
Raw wasn't terrible, but if not for Kevin Owens and Nia Jax doing what she did, it would have been much, much worse.Even the New Day aren't what they once were.
And Smackdown again is a solid, entertaining show. Good matches, a far better women's division than RAW (which amazes me), and a good main event.
I really hope Miz doing his "I am the main event" is part of a push that will actually take him there. Apart from Styles, he's the primary heel on Smackdown, even more than Bray I would argue.
lol I've been a Miz fan since I started watching again in 2012/2013. I actually missed his wwe title run, and still haven't gotten around to watching it yet.
Literally the reason I started liking him was because when I saw him, I actually went "someone took the CAW I've used in every wrestling game and brought it to life".
Originally posted by -Pr-So.....you like The Miz...because he looks like your old CAW......seems legit 😂
lol I've been a Miz fan since I started watching again in 2012/2013. I actually missed his wwe title run, and still haven't gotten around to watching it yet.Literally the reason I started liking him was because when I saw him, I actually went "someone took the CAW I've used in every wrestling game and brought it to life".
Originally posted by -Pr-👆 He is very brilliant at what he does. The guy has it all to be the top guy of the company. I guess his 2011 title run just did not impress 🙁
lol that was why I did at first yes.I then came to realise he's a brilliant man on the mic and a better wrestler than most people give him credit for. He's not a spot monkey, but he knows how to make a match interesting, and for it to make logical sense.
Originally posted by TheHulk
👆 He is very brilliant at what he does. The guy has it all to be the top guy of the company. I guess his 2011 title run just did not impress 🙁
I think it was too soon, tbh, even if his "hate me now" segment is a work of art and could be on any list of wrestling segments.
If he got a title run now, and they gave him the ball and let him run with it, the guy could build nuclear heat.
There just aren't as many scumbag heels anymore. Owens and Rollins are dicks, but they win matches through wrestling ability, not by being evil. I do like that Miz CAN win clean, but villains are supposed to, by their very nature, cheat to win.
One thing I read the other day surprised me that I hadn't noticed it before: There's no top babyface on Raw. Reigns isn't popular enough (even if i'm starting to warm to him now that they're not making him invincible), and Zayn isn't in the main event.
You have Rollins, Owens, and Jericho to a point all dominating parts of the show. What's the biggest face segment on Raw nowadays? The New Day? I love me some New Day, but it's not the same thing.
Honestly, I'd be happy if, when they eventually turn AJ Styles face, they send Ambrose to RAW and let Styles feud with guys like Orton, Miz, Bray and even a heel Ziggler.
Oh, and for the love of god put Cesaro on Smackdown. As good as he is on RAW, the man needs to be on the "wrestling" show. And i'd love to see him fight AJ.
Originally posted by -Pr-My f*ucking god, the ''hate me now'' video at wrestlemania was one of the best things ever.
I think it was too soon, tbh, even if his "hate me now" segment is a work of art and could be on any list of wrestling segments.If he got a title run now, and they gave him the ball and let him run with it, the guy could build nuclear heat.
There just aren't as many scumbag heels anymore. Owens and Rollins are dicks, but they win matches through wrestling ability, not by being evil. I do like that Miz CAN win clean, but villains are supposed to, by their very nature, cheat to win.
One thing I read the other day surprised me that I hadn't noticed it before: There's no top babyface on Raw. Reigns isn't popular enough (even if i'm starting to warm to him now that they're not making him invincible), and Zayn isn't in the main event.
You have Rollins, Owens, and Jericho to a point all dominating parts of the show. What's the biggest face segment on Raw nowadays? The New Day? I love me some New Day, but it's not the same thing.
Honestly, I'd be happy if, when they eventually turn AJ Styles face, they send Ambrose to RAW and let Styles feud with guys like Orton, Miz, Bray and even a heel Ziggler.
Oh, and for the love of god put Cesaro on Smackdown. As good as he is on RAW, the man needs to be on the "wrestling" show. And i'd love to see him fight AJ.
They mostly likely will put Ambrose on raw one day with Reigns and Rollins so they can build up a Shield reunion or feud again. But if they just trade Ambrose for Rollins or Reigns, the latter will just take the top spot too.
I agree with the rest of things you said, especially the heels part.
Originally posted by -Pr-Maan, that Rollins and Ambrose feud was probably the feud of the year.
Yeah, I honestly think that it's better if they have all three Shield guys on RAW. Ambrose and Rollins feuding is gold, and unless they turn Rollins face soon, it's going to get very stale I think.Owens is great, but he can't carry the show by himself.
No one can carry Raw by themselves in the first place. Smackdown maybe because it's shorter. But you can't carry a 3 hour show 😂
PPV was okay... Cesaro and Sheamus was a good match, shame about the finish.
Everything else was... Okay. The only thing I disliked really was the finish to Reigns and Rusev. Not a bad match, and I don't mind that Reigns won, really, he's just so... Protected, now that he's not challenging for the title anymore. That period where he could realistically lose seems to be over now, sadly.
Originally posted by -Pr-I didn't watch COC, but a few of my friends had, and they were disappointed. Reigns is more protected than Cena in my opinion. Trust me we will be seeing him in the title hunt soon. Vince has a huge hard on for the guy.
PPV was okay... Cesaro and Sheamus was a good match, shame about the finish.Everything else was... Okay. The only thing I disliked really was the finish to Reigns and Rusev. Not a bad match, and I don't mind that Reigns won, really, he's just so... Protected, now that he's not challenging for the title anymore. That period where he could realistically lose seems to be over now, sadly.
Originally posted by -Pr-I didn't watch COC, but a few of my friends had, and they were disappointed. Reigns is more protected than Cena in my opinion and trust me, we will be seeing him in the title hunt soon. Vince has a huge hard on for the guy.
PPV was okay... Cesaro and Sheamus was a good match, shame about the finish.Everything else was... Okay. The only thing I disliked really was the finish to Reigns and Rusev. Not a bad match, and I don't mind that Reigns won, really, he's just so... Protected, now that he's not challenging for the title anymore. That period where he could realistically lose seems to be over now, sadly.
Originally posted by P-Geyser
I didn't watch COC, but a few of my friends had, and they were disappointed. Reigns is more protected than Cena in my opinion and trust me, we will be seeing him in the title hunt soon. Vince has a huge hard on for the guy.
Yeah. He was even the heel in this feud, but no, apparently we're supposed to boo Rusev? Half of this feud was Rusev trying to defend the honour of his wife, and Roman being a dick.
I haven't watched a full raw or smackdown in years but I'll watch the top ten moments from each show that the wwe YouTube channel posts and I'll watch the what culture videos that basically review the best moments
IMO raw at the very least should go back to being a two hour show cause I don't think many people want to or can always dedicate so many hours to watching wwe
I'll watch pay per views for sure tho
Maybe get rid of raw entirely then extend smackdown or have a whole new named show to give it that real new feel rather than just saying "this is the new era" sometimes you got to take a step back before moving forward or something
Originally posted by TheHulkdo you not agree that he is really the good guy in the feud? Even he is still presented as heel
Lol i really love how people come to the conclusion that Rusev is the good guy because of the whole wife thing 😂
Originally posted by TheHulk
Lol i really love how people come to the conclusion that Rusev is the good guy because of the whole wife thing 😂
even taking that out, reigns was still booked as far more of a dick during their feud than rusev was.
Originally posted by walshy
I haven't watched a full raw or smackdown in years but I'll watch the top ten moments from each show that the wwe YouTube channel posts and I'll watch the what culture videos that basically review the best momentsIMO raw at the very least should go back to being a two hour show cause I don't think many people want to or can always dedicate so many hours to watching wwe
I'll watch pay per views for sure tho
Maybe get rid of raw entirely then extend smackdown or have a whole new named show to give it that real new feel rather than just saying "this is the new era" sometimes you got to take a step back before moving forward or something
do you not agree that he is really the good guy in the feud? Even he is still presented as heel
smackdown has been a consistently better show since the draft split, tbh.
Originally posted by walshydo you not agree that he is really the good guy in the feud? Even he is still presented as heel
Originally posted by -Pr-
even taking that out, reigns was still booked as far more of a dick during their feud than rusev was..
Well Lana's a sexy ass but she is also an ass like her husband. I'm pretty sure Lana's cakeface draws no sympathy.