Official WWE Thread

Originally posted by -Pr-
Bray REALLY doesn't need to lose any more than he has already. They finally put a belt on him, then spoil it with the whole Orton and Harper thing.

Don't get me wrong, I like American Alpha, and I do want to see where this whole Orton thing is going, but Bray has been dicked around for a while now. He needs to build some credibility.

Remember that moment when Bray stared down Triple H who was holding the belt at the time...man the shivers...

is anyone watching the uk championship tournament?

Originally posted by walshy
is anyone watching the uk championship tournament?

Dynamite Kid suffered a stroke awhile back, and according to his wife receives NO ROYALTIES from the WWE whatsoever.

DAMN THAT TOURNAMENT and support this struggling icon and visionary of BRITISH origin!!!

As good a wrestler as he was, wasn't Dynamite Kid a massive prick?

Originally posted by -Pr-
As good a wrestler as he was, wasn't Dynamite Kid a massive prick?

Yes, he was a terrible human being. That was fueled in large part by a mix of steroid use and other illicit drugs. Given his injuries and sobriety his life has changed dramatically.

PURE DYNAMITE details all of it.

the tournament was awesome and that was just the first round matches! cool venue and crowd were into everything. commentary was great, even michael cole. I was really hyped for it, it was a nice feeling that it was unpredictable for a change because I'd only ever heard of four of the guys in the tournament so for the most part I was pretty clueless who might advance.

also the belt is beautiful

When I was younger I used to get the wwe magazine and always wanted one of the replica titles, even though they were crazy expensive, but THAT would look beautiful on the wall

I honestly didn't care about CWC so i will treat this UK thing the same 😬

Originally posted by TheHulk
What have you heard about Reigns?

How would you book him as a heel? Honestly in my opinion, you can have him be the same unbeatable monster but the only difference is his a bad guy...i really don't see how that would make him that much more interesting...

Agreed, i seriously dig Corbin...he has look, speech and ring work of a badass.... of course the 2 latter need improvement.

My idea with booking Reigns being a heel would be, how the WWE did things with his cousin The Rock. Remember when The Rock was "Rocky Maivia" and he was a face? He would get booed just like Reigns and Cena. WWE creative then allowed The Rock, to say whatever he felt, about the fans booing him and he became a heel and thus The Rock was born.

Same thing with Reigns. As I said WWE now, seems to have restrictions. It's like when Dean Ambrose was on Stone Cold's podcast. Stone Cold was asking why Dean DOSE NOT TAKE IT UP A NOTCH. It's simple because he can't...Vinny Mac and Kevin Dunn won't allow it. For Reigns, I would have him say what's really on his mind and what he thinks of the fans, change his theme music, his outfit, change some of his moveset. You know freshen it up, and not become stale as Cena has been for the last 10 plus years. Problem is, Vince McMahon is so out of touch and is stubborn.

As to Reigns being a douche, it was some interview that he gave regarding the fans. I will try and look it up and link it.

I totally totally recommend watching the UK championship tournament! it was amazing. whether it was the venue, the white hot crowd or the unpredictability of it all. better than anything on main roster for me. if you have the network def check out at least the second night, if you don't have the network, get it just for this, its def worth it.

idk where it goes from here, if wwe will do a weekly uk show or some of the guys will show up on nxt.

i'll spoiler this just in case anyone here does watch it

Spoiler:
the guy who won is only 19! https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2PxPuNXEAE0pu3.jpg

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unrelated but just read that jimmy snuka died

Originally posted by P-Geyser
I think the problem is WWE ofcourse. It is not the same company as it was back in "The Attitude Era" and "Ruthless Agression Era" as we all know. Wrestlers now seem "restricted" from what they can say.

My idea with booking Reigns being a heel would be, how the WWE did things with his cousin The Rock. Remember when The Rock was "Rocky Maivia" and he was a face? He would get booed just like Reigns and Cena. WWE creative then allowed The Rock, to say whatever he felt, about the fans booing him and he became a heel and thus The Rock was born.

Same thing with Reigns. As I said WWE now, seems to have restrictions. It's like when Dean Ambrose was on Stone Cold's podcast. Stone Cold was asking why Dean DOSE NOT TAKE IT UP A NOTCH. It's simple because he can't...Vinny Mac and Kevin Dunn won't allow it. For Reigns, I would have him say what's really on his mind and what he thinks of the fans, change his theme music, his outfit, change some of his moveset. You know freshen it up, and not become stale as Cena has been for the last 10 plus years. Problem is, Vince McMahon is so out of touch and is stubborn.

As to Reigns being a douche, it was some interview that he gave regarding the fans. I will try and look it up and link it.

Not disagreeing with anything you are saying but The Rock was a whole other created persona. We can't assume Reigns would elevate himself like ''Rocky Mavia'' did. The best assumption we can get is Reigns would just be like Neville and any other superstars who turned heel based on the heat they were given as faces. Not saying what Neville or even what Reigns would do as a heel won't be interesting but i personally feel it's not gonna completely save Reigns. A heel turn might be for the best though no doubt. But for real, why are we complaining about his moveset? At least his signature stuff is actually better and more unique then most IMO 😂

Ahh yeah i actually know of that interview. Is that all though? I figured people had more evidence of him being a douche. If i remember correctly he was addressing the fans that were hating on him and critizing him. A dude shitting on his haters is not unheard of 😂

Originally posted by walshy
i'll spoiler this just in case anyone here does watch it

Spoiler:
the guy who won is only 19! https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2PxPuNXEAE0pu3.jpg

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unrelated but just read that jimmy snuka died

I didn't know until you told me. First one this year?

Originally posted by TheHulk
Well things change for better or the worst. No point in complaining until Vince dies sadly to say.

Not disagreeing with anything you are saying but The Rock was a whole other created persona. We can't assume Reigns would elevate himself like ''Rocky Mavia'' did. The best assumption we can get is Reigns would just be like Neville and any other superstars who turned heel based on the heat they were given as faces. Not saying what Neville or even what Reigns would do as a heel won't be interesting but i personally feel it's not gonna completely save Reigns. A heel turn might be for the best though no doubt. But for real, why are we complaining about his moveset? At least his signature stuff is actually better and more unique then most IMO 😂

Ahh yeah i actually know of that interview. Is that all though? I figured people had more evidence of him being a douche. If i remember correctly he was addressing the fans that were hating on him and critizing him. A dude shitting on his haters is not unheard of 😂

From what I've heard, he's had a few bad interviews and tweets where he just doesn't come across very well.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I didn't know until you told me. First one this year?

From what I've heard, he's had a few bad interviews and tweets where he just doesn't come across very well.

As a person, he seems fine. On UUDD, he seems like a reasonably nice guy. The problem for me is that when you put a camera on him and expect him to perform, it seems to get a bit wonky. And he's naturally defensive about the reception he gets too.

The sad thing about him in general is, I get the feeling that people WANT to like him. They want to get behind him and cheer for him. But the booking doesn't just help him, it hurts other people too. Owens, one of the best guys to come in to the company in the past decade, has looked like a shit champion. Rusev, a monster heel that beat everyone put in front of him, couldn't put Roman down with a submission that made John Cena pass out ALL while using a chain at the same time.

He has his faults, but his booking is by and large his biggest, imo.

I'm fully expecting him to win at the Rumble, but I hope it doesn't hurt Owens too much. He's too good a guy to end up in the lower mid-card fighting Titus O'Neill every week.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Well things change for better or the worst. No point in complaining until Vince dies sadly to say.

Not disagreeing with anything you are saying but The Rock was a whole other created persona. We can't assume Reigns would elevate himself like ''Rocky Mavia'' did. The best assumption we can get is Reigns would just be like Neville and any other superstars who turned heel based on the heat they were given as faces. Not saying what Neville or even what Reigns would do as a heel won't be interesting but i personally feel it's not gonna completely save Reigns. A heel turn might be for the best though no doubt. But for real, why are we complaining about his moveset? At least his signature stuff is actually better and more unique then most IMO 😂

Ahh yeah i actually know of that interview. Is that all though? I figured people had more evidence of him being a douche. If i remember correctly he was addressing the fans that were hating on him and critizing him. A dude shitting on his haters is not unheard of 😂

Cena also has addressed his haters, and did not take the shitty attitude that Reigns did is what I am getting at. It would be perfect for his character in turning heel though.

Honestly I think Owen's has been hurt in his feud with Reigns. He has had one of the most disastrous title runs that I have ever seen. AJ Styles also a heel, has had a great and successful title run but Owen's seems dreadful, and this is the guy who tore it up in NXT, and defeated Cena when he joined The main roster. He continuously keeps falling to SuperReigns, and if he does come out with a victory, it's due to Jericho's interference and some silly ass stunt.

Raw was okay. My only large complaint was having Braun back down from Lesnar. Really hurts him, imo.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Folks have the right to complain I would think, since they are the one's buying tickets, purchasing the network etc. The Rock was in a similar situation like Reigns is what I am getting at. Ofcourse we don't know if the same result would happen with Reigns,but we don't know. Though what I do know is Reigns, is boring, uncharasmatic and yeah shitty on the mic...I am sorry but this guy needs a major change and yes we seem to be in agreement, he needs to turn heel. Though Vinny Mac wants him to be this superhuman face like Cena who overcomes the odds no matter what. I am sorry, but I cannot stand the Superman punch sue me.

Cena also has addressed his haters, and did not take the shitty attitude that Reigns did is what I am getting at. It would be perfect for his character in turning heel though.

Heh, i'm actually interested to see how Reigns would handle himself if the company allowed him to handle his own gimmick. What would he go with hmmmm

Hmph well i like the superman punch so counter sue me 😛

Originally posted by TheHulk
I didn't even imply people can't criticize Reigns, like i said, a guy who rants about his haters is not uncommon nor is it immoral. Yeah he tells people that rants on him to shut up..but who wouldn't 😄

Heh, i'm actually interested to see how Reigns would handle himself if the company allowed him to handle his own gimmick. What would he go with hmmmm

Hmph well i like the superman punch so counter sue me 😛

Look at Dolph Ziggler now. I liked him before, but now he is becoming more interesting in his heel turn. I think the same thing would happen with Reigns. He is just not over, and this turn could be something good, but Vince McMahon is so stubborn and out of touch it won't happen.

Regarding the superman punch all I can say is "different strokes for different folks"