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Originally posted by walshy
There might be a women's money in the bank match which I think would be awesome

And depending who's in it, I have no idea who might win it

There's not much of a woman's division on Smackdown to warrant a MITB match. They have 9 women wrestlers for Smackdown. And two of them (Eva Marie and Nikki Bella) are inactive.

Extreme Rules is Sunday. Let's go Balor! Take on Lesnar at Great Balls of Fire in a piano match! It'll be like a table match just with more piano. Even AJ Styles is rather dumbstruck at that PPV name:

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Daaaamn...WWE is actually making the Joe vs Lesnar dream match come true 😑

Originally posted by TheHulk
Daaaamn...WWE is actually making the Joe vs Lesnar dream match come true 😑

Shame it'll probably be a squash match.

I second that. Joe vs Lesnar will most indeed be a squash match, and I suspect the buildup leading to GBOF, will be extremely lackluster. With Lesnar not appearing that much, Heyman will be the one promoting this matchup. I see it as, Joe being fed to Lesnar, so Lesnar down the road, can be fed to Reigns.

With that said, I did not even see Extreme Rules...was more interested in the NBA finals. Though I saw clips, and I must say the Bayley/Alexa Bliss match was pure Garbage. I love Alexa Bliss, but damn this was indeed cringe, and not to mention Bayley's momentum is COMPLETLEY DONE.

God damn the Bliss vs Bayley match was the probably the worst match of the year so far.

edit: And lol speaking of the NBA finals..lol the Cavaliers are getting their ass handed to them 😂 I mean sure it's own enemy turf but damn losing by multiple points? 😂

There won't be a game 7..Warriors will sweep The Cavs. They are just too good.

As for wrestling and Monday Night Raw, it is safe to say, That Bray Wyatt as JD puts it, is THE EATER OF PINS. That move from Smackdown to Raw, did "wonders" for him. I can guaran DAMN TEE there isn't going to be a Title Run on Raw in his future.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
As for wrestling and Monday Night Raw, it is safe to say, That Bray Wyatt as JD puts it, is THE EATER OF PINS. That move from Smackdown to Raw, did "wonders" for him. I can guaran DAMN TEE there isn't going to be a Title Run on Raw in his future.

Bray wasn't treated much better on Smackdown (but he was at least used better than Raw). He was just built up as WWE Champ so Randy can beat him. He didn't even have a single title defense before Randy took the belt off him. I would honestly think that Bray should leave WWE and try his hand at ROH or New Japan or something. A place that will actually utilize his talents instead of him just floundering in the mid-card and being only used to put someone else over. Seriously, after that House of Horrors match, there's not much there for Bray.

And I just feel kind of bad for everyone on Raw. There's no chance for any of them to have a Universal title run until Roman beats Brock at WrestleMania 34.

Originally posted by TheHulk
God damn the Bliss vs Bayley match was the probably the worst match of the year so far.

Bayley just went full Zack Ryder.

The WWE is currently losing viewership. In fact it seems that the WWE has lost viewership gradually for quite some time. Is this just a natural result due to a change of how people watch media nowadays (such as watching YouTube clips instead) or is this just a result of the product being bad?

And Billy Corgan has bought the NWA and indie wrestling in general is seeing a boom. Who is the NWA Heavyweight Champion? Let me look that up. Ah! It's Tim Storm. Who the hell is Tim Storm? Anyways, we're seeing a boom to indie wrestling like ROH and a decline in viewership to the WWE. Despite the WWE bringing in all the best indie wrestlers they can get such as AJ Styles, Finn Balor, Kevin Owens, Sami Zayn, Samoa Joe, and so on.

Overall, what is your opinion on the WWE? With Raw and Smackdown? With NXT and 205Live? With the constant PPVs every two weeks? Is it just too much WWE?

Originally posted by P-Geyser
There won't be a game 7..Warriors will sweep The Cavs. They are just too good.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Bayley just went full Zack Ryder.

On WWEs declining ratings. Whats the shock? Media is changing, hell i download all WWEs shows through Pirate Bay or watch it on a free website.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Bray wasn't treated much better on Smackdown (but he was at least used better than Raw). He was just built up as WWE Champ so Randy can beat him. He didn't even have a single title defense before Randy took the belt off him. I would honestly think that Bray should leave WWE and try his hand at ROH or New Japan or something. A place that will actually utilize his talents instead of him just floundering in the mid-card and being only used to put someone else over. Seriously, after that House of Horrors match, there's not much there for Bray.

And I just feel kind of bad for everyone on Raw. There's no chance for any of them to have a Universal title run until Roman beats Brock at WrestleMania 34.

In honesty, I enjoy SD. I can't stand RAW..watching everyone made to look inferior to SuperReigns, and also the Three hours feels like a chore.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Yeah, if Warriors win the next game, the series is basically over. No way LBJ is gonna perform a miracle again with 0 wins, they would need to win 4 straight!

3-8....LeBrons legacy will forever be tainted...i can't even put him above Magic or Kobe let alone Jordan.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
The thing is, I believe he was treated better on SD. I agree he was built up, so Randy could snag the title...but at least(my opinion) he had the title. On Raw, he will be jobbing out constantly to Reigns, Rollins, Lesnar etc. I honestly think he will go down to mid card status and even then, he will most likely will be "Eating pins" I feel that if he had remained on SD, he would have gotten better treatment. I like your idea about him going to New Japan and ROH, though I doubt it will happen.

In honesty, I enjoy SD. I can't stand RAW..watching everyone made to look inferior to SuperReigns, and also the Three hours feels like a chore.

Smackdown is the A show. And of course everyone is made to look inferior to Reigns. It's called Raw. Roman Always Wins.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Smackdown is the A show. And of course everyone is made to look inferior to Reigns. It's called Raw. Roman Always Wins.

Raw is Reigns at this point. Honestly i do like the dude....but he needs something more..i don't know what...but the crowd isn't having it.

Bobby Roode needs to hurry up and go up to Smackdown. Samoa Joe needs to go over to Smackdown. And Austin Aries can leave 205Live and join Smackdown. Then they all form a stable with AJ Styles. Basically the TNA Stable and they run rampant on Smackdown and rule with an iron fist.

And forsake Raw? Raw may not be liked but it's still the ''flagship'' show...it needs to be improved.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Overall, what is your opinion on the WWE? With Raw and Smackdown? With NXT and 205Live? With the constant PPVs every two weeks? Is it just too much WWE?

I, THE LORDOFWRESTLING ANALYSIS shall enlighten you.

The WWE is currently paying dearly for sins of the past. And when I say past I don't mean 2 or 3 years ago but rather 7-8 years ago.

What you have now is a product with too few stars and those that currently exist don't have the ability to effectively create new ones. That inability is either innate or the result of WWE's terrible booking for the past 7-8 years.

Here is what should have happened with the product for the past 7-8 years.

1. Ziggler- Ziggler should have had at least 2 long title reigns after his concussion caused him to give up the belt to Del Rio. Ziggler essentially defeated The Authority by himself( With an assist from Sting). He was red hot and primed to headline WrestleMania as a result.

2. Wyatt- Wyatt should have been champ 3 times before his sole transition champ run. Cena should've put Wyatt over for the initial title reign. Next, he should have beaten HHH the way that they teased for his second win. Last, Reigns should have lost and as a result the Samoan could have actually become a fan favorite.

3. Rusev- The best monster heel in wrestling for a tremendous run and no World title to show for it. If Rusev would have made Cena tap to the clutch it would've been an iconic moment putting him over forever.

4. Sandow- Despite creative doing everything to bury him, Sandow, connected with the crowd and was ready for a main event push. The result, he was the !@#$%^*& FIRST man NOT to successfully cash in the briefcase for the belt. Damaged. For. Life.

5. New Day- When New Day was White Hot and the World title was not someone suggested a brilliant idea. Namely, have New Day win the belt and defend it Freebird style. It would have brought a level of fun and unpredictability to the show.

6. Ryback- I watched Ryback murder John Cena and STILL not win the belt. Now, Cena was revived, nevertheless, The Ryback should have raised the belt with Cena's broken body laying below the walkway. Ryback had 2 great title runs in him as a heel vs Cena and as a face vs Punk.

7.Sting. The Icon should have won at Mania. Instead, he loses to HHH and is now presented as JUST a loser to a new generation rather than a legend who can transfer gravitas to another wrestler. If Sting had won he could have elevated someone for a single match and most likely would have had the dream match with Undertaker.

There are many more moments but these are the ones that really personify the problem. All of the aforementioned wrestlers had they been booked correctly could've elevated each other and new stars around them.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
I, THE LORDOFWRESTLING ANALYSIS shall enlighten you.

The WWE is currently paying dearly for sins of the past. And when I say past I don't mean 2 or 3 years ago but rather 7-8 years ago.

What you have now is a product with too few stars and those that currently exist don't have the ability to effectively create new ones. That inability is either innate or the result of WWE's terrible booking for the past 7-8 years.

Here is what should have happened with the product for the past 7-8 years.

1. Ziggler- Ziggler should have had at least 2 long title reigns after his concussion caused him to give up the belt to Del Rio. Ziggler essentially defeated The Authority by himself( With an assist from Sting). He was red hot and primed to headline WrestleMania as a result.

2. Wyatt- Wyatt should have been champ 3 times before his sole transition champ run. Cena should've put Wyatt over for the initial title reign. Next, he should have beaten HHH the way that they teased for his second win. Last, Reigns should have lost and as a result the Samoan could have actually become a fan favorite.

3. Rusev- The best monster heel in wrestling for a tremendous run and no World title to show for it. If Rusev would have made Cena tap to the clutch it would've been an iconic moment putting him over forever.

4. Sandow- Despite creative doing everything to bury him, Sandow, connected with the crowd and was ready for a main event push. The result, he was the !@#$%^*& FIRST man NOT to successfully cash in the briefcase for the belt. Damaged. For. Life.

5. New Day- When New Day was White Hot and the World title was not someone suggested a brilliant idea. Namely, have New Day win the belt and defend it Freebird style. It would have brought a level of fun and unpredictability to the show.

6. Ryback- I watched Ryback murder John Cena and STILL not win the belt. Now, Cena was revived, nevertheless, The Ryback should have raised the belt with Cena's broken body laying below the walkway. Ryback had 2 great title runs in him as a heel vs Cena and as a face vs Punk.

7.Sting. The Icon should have won at Mania. Instead, he loses to HHH and is now presented as JUST a loser to a new generation rather than a legend who can transfer gravitas to another wrestler. If Sting had won he could have elevated someone for a single match and most likely would have had the dream match with Undertaker.

There are many more moments but these are the ones that really personify the problem. All of the aforementioned wrestlers had they been booked correctly could've elevated each other and new stars around them.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
1. Ziggler- Ziggler should have had at least 2 long title reigns after his concussion caused him to give up the belt to Del Rio. Ziggler essentially defeated The Authority by himself( With an assist from Sting). He was red hot and primed to headline WrestleMania as a result.

Well sadly, Ziggler's constant concussions did make him a liability to be a world champ so it made sense why he didn't have a long reign. Shame because he's one of the best in-ring workers WWE has today. I think as long as he remains on Smackdown, I think he may be able to pull another world title run. Will he main event Mania? Nah. Roman and Lesnar will main event the next Mania.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
2. Wyatt- Wyatt should have been champ 3 times before his sole transition champ run. Cena should've put Wyatt over for the initial title reign. Next, he should have beaten HHH the way that they teased for his second win. Last, Reigns should have lost and as a result the Samoan could have actually become a fan favorite.

Agreed mostly. I think Wyatt was misused horribly from the start. I'll go into more detail on how I think they should have booked Bray Wyatt later.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
3. Rusev- The best monster heel in wrestling for a tremendous run and no World title to show for it. If Rusev would have made Cena tap to the clutch it would've been an iconic moment putting him over forever.

See, I don't mind that it took Super Cena to be the one to beat Rusev for the US Title because Rusev needed to drop the title and move up to the World Title. That would have been better. He was built and ready to go but then they decided to stick him in a love triangle and that just didn't make sense.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
4. Sandow- Despite creative doing everything to bury him, Sandow, connected with the crowd and was ready for a main event push. The result, he was the !@#$%^*& FIRST man NOT to successfully cash in the briefcase for the belt. Damaged. For. Life.

He wasn't as over with the crowd when he was MITB winner as he was after his time with the Miz. Him losing the MITB cash-in could have worked wonders for him instead of him winning because there's a MUCH better story to work with at that. Him trying to rise back up and clinch that World Title he thought was his. And Sandow would have been someone capable of running with that story and he would have gotten so over with that kind of story behind him. Maybe more so than he did as Mizdow.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
5. New Day- When New Day was White Hot and the World title was not someone suggested a brilliant idea. Namely, have New Day win the belt and defend it Freebird style. It would have brought a level of fun and unpredictability to the show.

This is just the sad reality of modern WWE in that tag teams/stables never go for single titles anymore. Shawn Michaels and Triple H teamed up as DX but Shawn was WWE Champ and they never competed for the tag titles in their initial run. That's something they need to bring back again.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
6. Ryback- I watched Ryback murder John Cena and STILL not win the belt. Now, Cena was revived, nevertheless, The Ryback should have raised the belt with Cena's broken body laying below the walkway. Ryback had 2 great title runs in him as a heel vs Cena and as a face vs Punk.

Ryback was too green to carry the title and he was injuring people he worked with. Ryback is someone who just got pushed to soon.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
7.Sting. The Icon should have won at Mania. Instead, he loses to HHH and is now presented as JUST a loser to a new generation rather than a legend who can transfer gravitas to another wrestler. If Sting had won he could have elevated someone for a single match and most likely would have had the dream match with Undertaker.

I don't know why they just didn't do the match with Undertaker instead of Triple H instead. It doesn't make sense. They made the Sting/Triple H feud all about WCW vs. WWE which was idiotic. Sting even tried to steer the narrative away saying that he wasn't here for WCW but the announce team continued to harp on that THAT'S the reason Sting is here. It was stupid. His match with Rollins (though it ended his career) was probably the best match he could have had so I'm kind of glad he was able to end his career on a rather stellar match like that. Unlike Taker who ended his career on a rather botched, boring, and predictable match.

But you forgot probably the best talent WWE wasted and allowed to leave: Cody Rhodes. The dude is golden. Probably the best technical wrestler working today and he can tell a story. Cody was white hot after breaking up with Rhodes Scholars but they allowed him to flounder. Then he teamed up with Goldust and was once against white hot. I remember when those two stole the show every night for a good couple of months when they came through but instead they allowed their tag title run end waaaaaaaaay too early against the New Age Outlaws. That was a horrible booking decision. And what's worse is that we never got a conclusion to the Cody/Stardust vs. Goldust feud. It just ended for no reason after that botched ending at Fastlane. That was a dream match that got ruined.