Logically speaking, Revan can't be any more powerful than Yoda, as a quote from the omniscient narrator in a G-canon source (the RotS novelization) confirms that Yoda was "the most devastatingly powerful foe the darkness had ever known". I would personally put Revan slightly beneath Yoda and Sidious, but above Mace and Count Dooku. That still makes him outrageously powerful.
But, we have Jacen - who is confirmed by the omniscient narrator in one of the Legacy of the Force books (I think it's "Bloodlines", but don't quote me on that"😉 to be second only to Luke. Kyp also agrees that Jacen is second only to Luke, and pushes for him to ascend to masterhood. That would put Jacen a fair bit above Revan, and let's not forget that Jacen also withstood and held his own against Lumiya's Force phantom of Luke, which was described by the omniscient narrator as "a fair match for the real Luke".
As for Kyp, Kyp was able to overpower a post-DE Luke and put him in a coma - for one. Secondly, didn't he also manipulate a black hole easier than Luke himself? I'd say such feats and that his potential was (wrongly) mistaken to be superior to Luke's own does imply that he has a fair bit of strength about him.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Escape, I've read bloodline and all it did was put Jacen second only to Luke in the New Jedi Order. Personally I believe Kyp has done a lot more to show that his force abilities and raw power surpass Jacen.
Bingo. Second only to Luke, meaning that Kyp is neither. He is, thus, weaker than Jacen.
Originally posted by Tangible God
1.) DN LukeNo one else, Luke's Godly powers are able to disintegrate all others and wipe them from existence. If only Chuck Norris would fight him.
I refuse to achnowledge the so called Luke Skywalker character that developed after the final movie, I shall go with George Lucas in that respect.
Originally posted by xxXAcStylesXxx
No, genius I'm going by ingame evidence which shows Sion to be not so hot with him getting beaten by the Exile 5 times in a row, his dismal display of force abilities, his slave devotion to Kreia and anything associated with her, him bowing to Traya again and the fact that each time he rises he grows substantially weaker and more fatigued.
AC I'm not going to address every minor point given that I'm posting between work outs here, but even if Sion sucks Major ass without the 'invincibility' ability, he still can't technically be killed through combat, so I think he should still be damn high based on that alone. I really don't think the fact that people can persuade him to kill himself should be taken into account, given it's more personality related than combat related. Now getting beat by The Exile so many times does make him look pretty bad, but for all you know The Exile was a beast in combat (given what we know, she likely was). And I really don't see how you view his obedience to Traya a lack of power or ability, given he loved her more than anything else in the world.
Gideon, technically post KotOR Revan isn't a Jedi. That is, the Revan who likely skyrocketed in power due to his regained memories. I'd say he's definitely beyond Yoda. Oh and if you're referring to the line in the RotS novelisation, that was most likely Yoda's own admission, so it's not infallible (I would go into detail, but I'm pretty sure we've discussed it before, and we drew to a standpoint where there' no possible way of saying whether it was coming from the omniscient narrator or Yoda).
Who cares if he can't be killed via combat. It's pretty clear that anybody superior to him can break his will, so he doesn't deserve to be anywhere near the top.. And the exile was a beast in combat? Wtf are you talking about? Nothing even remotely suggests that, so thank you for yet another baseless assumption.
Originally posted by Apollo Cloud
It was the "I have the hots for old women" kind've love.And Sexy, The Exile did defeat Traya, which has got to support her being damn powerful.