GDS Darkseid v.s. Ion

Started by Tazer5 pages

Yo.

Originally posted by Juntai
Darkseid can make book tubes under his own power.
Darkseid doesn't use a motherbox, only New Gods of Genesis use Motherboxes.
His eye beams can also produce the boom effect.

on Apokolips they have "Father Boxes"

Tazer

Juntai is one of the worst people to argue against on DC stuff. He's one of the best DC guys on the site. If he says Darkseid can make his own tubes, he can make the tubes. And I've seen lackeys use father boxes, but never Darkseid himself.

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

on Apokolips they have "Father Boxes"

Tazer

Show me Darkseid using a fatherbox

Originally posted by Juntai
Show me Darkseid using a fatherbox

QFT. Egg-****ing-xactly. He's never done it. Desaad has, Granny has, Kalibak has, but never DS himself.

Darksied makes a boom tube with Omega Beams.
http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newgods07136hm.jpg

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Juntai is one of the worst people to argue against on DC stuff. He's one of the best DC guys on the site. If he says Darkseid can make his own tubes, he can make the tubes. And I've seen lackeys use father boxes, but never Darkseid himself.

Agree. Juntai sucks. 🙁

Originally posted by Validus
Agree. Juntai sucks. 🙁
You love me. 😄

Yo.

Originally posted by Juntai
Darksied makes a boom tube with Omega Beams.
http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newgods07136hm.jpg

ok, U got me w/that scan.......dammit!

of course, I never actually said that DS uses/d a FB, but I'll concede the point.

😉

Tazer

You think that's good, you should check out the respect thread. 😉

Yo.

no need since I doubt theres any other examples of him generating a BT that way.....and he'd still lose this fight.

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
and he'd still lose this fight.
Based on what?

Your assumption that Ion would be completely immune to Darkseid's TP?

Or your assumption that the OE would be ineffective on him?

hum

Originally posted by Juntai
Darksied makes a boom tube with Omega Beams.
http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newgods07136hm.jpg
😱

You know it's serious when Jun starts posting scans!

😛

Originally posted by Juntai
Darksied makes a boom tube with Omega Beams.
http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newgods07136hm.jpg

😆 😆

Was Darkseid using a MotherBox as a cell phone?

Yo.

Originally posted by Galan007
Based on what?

Your assumption that Ion would be completely immune to Darkseid's TP?

Or your assumption that the OE would be ineffective on him?

hum

as far as the OE goes, this is assuming he gets hit, and original Ion can literally move across the galaxy either as fast as Barry has, or faster, so avoiding it (even temporarily) is possible.

and as far as that tp-feat goes..........thats simply a coinflip. it may work since Kyle has been taken over mentally b4, but not as Ion. it may not work, since Kyle has managed to fight off a Controller mentally (pre-Ion natch). none of us knows either way since this is a much more powerful Kyle, but how he'd deal w/it is questionable.

and becuz of that Im not considering it.

wat I AM basing my opinion on is the straight -up head to head: and GDS loses that.

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
as far as the OE goes, this is assuming he gets hit, and original Ion can literally move across the galaxy either as fast as Barry has, or faster, so avoiding it (even temporarily) is possible.

and as far as that tp-feat goes..........thats simply a coinflip. it may work since Kyle has been taken over mentally b4, but not as Ion. it may not work, since Kyle has managed to fight off a Controller mentally (pre-Ion natch). none of us knows either way since this is a much more powerful Kyle, but how he'd deal w/it is questionable.

and becuz of that Im not considering it.

wat I AM basing my opinion on is the straight -up head to head: and GDS loses that.

The tracer beams would be able to follow Ion anywhere.

And Kyle has never fought off TP on GDS Darkseid's caliber.

So to say he could, even though he never has is pure speculation.

Sure Ion would be more resistant to it, but completely immune?

I doubt it.

But do we both agree that it would be a close battle?

Yo.

Originally posted by Galan007
The tracer beams would be able to follow Ion anywhere.

thats not under dispute, however Kyle can be in 7 places at once. how many has Darkseid EVER fired off at any single time??

Originally posted by Galan007
And Kyle has never fought off TP on GDS Darkseid's caliber.

and GDS has never fought any1 as powerful as original Ion, nor has he ever attempted to use TP on them.

Originally posted by Galan007
So to say he could, even though he never has is pure speculation.

Im not saying he can, but Im not saying he cant either. cuz theres no evidence for speculation either way correct? the MOST U can do here is speculate, and that makes both stances equally valid.

Originally posted by Galan007
Sure Ion would be more resistant to it, but completely immune?

I doubt it.

thats fine, but U assume that he WOULD be affectd, w/o evidence. Im simply saying theres no evidence saying he would or wouldnt; taking a hard stance on either is dumb when theres nothing to support it.

Originally posted by Galan007
But do we both agree that it would be a close battle?

less than close IMNSHO. but thats just *my* opinion. if any1 else feels diff, thats just as good.

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
less than close IMNSHO. but thats just *my* opinion. if any1 else feels diff, thats just as good.
Less than close?

So REALLY close? 😕

here's a thought, Ion can simply wipe Darkseid out of existance.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Three Billion Daxamites, who all have will power like M"onel is pretty strong. They are all but resistant to TP. So the feat is really impressive.

how are they resistant to TP?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Plus Kyle is a Human being with Godlike power.

We are talking about a GL, their powers are based on will power imo... Plus Kyle is possibly the BEST GL ever. Theirs a chance he would be able to resist Darkseid TP, he'll WILL himself too.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Eternity is abstract and has a greater mind if you ask me. It should be easier to mind rape kyle than Eternity.

Like Jugernaut6666 said, Ion was one with the Universe, essentially he is Eternity.

Originally posted by Galan007
So DS can easily control 3 billion beings whom are each equal to PC Superboy in power, but affecting Ion's mind is totally out of the question? 😕

How is their will power compared to a top tier GL?

Originally posted by Galan007
I'm not saying DS takes the majority or anything, but Ion most definitely would not "crush" him.

Actually he should be able to crush him..Unless darkseid showed abstract level of power in the GDS, he should be able to rival Ions power..
Teleporting a planet and mind controlling 3 billin beings is still skyfather feat..