Originally posted by AvalonofthewindUnless Ion has shown an immunity to the OE, or to some of the most powerful known TP, (which he hasn't).
He's a non factor.Seriously...when has Spectre ever showed up and told Darkseid he could pretty much get away with anything he wanted to under his own power?
Then DS is still very much a factor here.
Sure DS wouldn't take the majority or anything, but it's far from a curbstomp in Ion's favor.
Ion crushes any rose colored glasses versions of DS you want to talk about.
That TP feat with the Daxamites is overrated though. When he first took control of them, they were under a red sun so they didn't have powers. When they did have power, DS couldn't maintain control of them for very long. Furthermore, when they all showed up to fight him, he fled.
Originally posted by ValidusThe main reason DS lost control of them, was because he began fighting the others who had been amped up by Highfather, so his concentration on the Daxams dwindled.
When they did have power, DS couldn't maintain control of them for very long.
It wasn't because his TP necessarily failed him.
Originally posted by Validus
That TP feat with the Daxamites is overrated though. When he first took control of them, they were under a red sun so they didn't have powers. When they did have power, DS couldn't maintain control of them for very long. Furthermore, when they all showed up to fight him, he fled.
He was still controling the minds of 3billion sperate creatures. Thats not a feat that many people can match.
Originally posted by Galan007
The main reason DS lost control, was because he began fighting the others who had been amped up by Highfather, so his concentration on the Daxams dwindled.It wasn't because his TP necessarily failed him.
Originally posted by ValidusHe was weakened from the battles he had with not only Orion, but the beings amped up by Highfather.
If his TP was so great, he could have simply resumed his control of them. Instead he knew he couldn't stand up to them and fled the fight.
All of his former powers wouldn't have been as great as they started out. 😕
Again, DS wouldn't take the majority here, but I don't think it's a stomp in Ion's favor.
Originally posted by Galan007
He was weakened from the battles he had with not only Orion, but the beings amped up by Highfather.All of his former powers wouldn't have been as great as they started out. 😕
Originally posted by Galan007
Unless Ion has shown an immunity to the OE, or to some of the most powerful known TP, (which he hasn't).Then DS is still very much a factor here.
Sure DS wouldn't take the majority or anything, but it's far from a curbstomp in Ion's favor.
Are you serious?
This is like saying TP can affect Spectre or Thanos with the IG.
It's a non factor.
The OE at it's best *MAY* make Ion feel some pain if it's written to it's upper end extreme...but as soon as that's done DS is dead.
It's 10/10 Ion.
There is NO comparison here.
Originally posted by ValidusHe did beat them,
My memory is probably fuzzy since I last read GDS over a year ago but I recall DS waxing all ass that appeared in front of him with the exception of Orion who only managed to last a few pages. I'm not sure you can get a measure on how exhausted he was from that.
But once he figured out his control over the Daxams had slipped, he didn't even attempt to fight anymore, because he knew he was weaker.
I do agree that we can't gauge his power 100% accurately, but we can say he was certainly weaker then he started out IMO.
Originally posted by AvalonofthewindAhhh,
Are you serious?This is like saying TP can affect Spectre or Thanos with the IG.
It's a non factor.
The OE at it's best *MAY* make Ion feel some pain if it's written to it's upper end extreme...but as soon as that's done DS is dead.
It's 10/10 Ion.
There is NO comparison here.
Gotcha! 😉