Darthgoober's Amalgam Tourney discussion thread

I say yay. Which means you want to ban Super-Adaptoid and Mimic. And probably Black Alice too.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

Mid-Tier
Colossus, Thing, Starfire, Thing, Abomination, Wonder Man, Ghost Rider, Rogue, Maul, Ms. Marvel, Blastaar, Captain Britain, Cyborg, Donna Troy, Wonder Girl, Hawkman, Hawkgirl, Guardian I, Classic Nova, Deathlok, Speedfreek, She-Hulk, Atom Smasher, War Machine, Human Torch, The Tick, Thunderstrike, Toxin, Lightning Lad, Havok, Omega Red, Beast Boy, Box, The Flash I (Jay Garrick), Doc Ock, Venom, Carnage, Atlas, Mister Hyde, Attuma, Thunder, Grace Choi, Shift, Power Girl, Aegis, Mary Marvel, Bishop, Crystal, Electro, Jean Grey (sans Phoenix), Emma Frost, Firehawk, Bombshell, Black Canary, Steel, Booster Gold, Psylocke, Rachel Summers, Nico Minoru, Death's Head II, Northstar, Aurora, Vance Astro, Tombstone, Klaw, Radioactive Man, Modok, Jenny Sparks, Elijah Snow, Ambrose Chase, Jakita Wagner, Terra, Blink, Blue Devil Morlun, Blob, Juggernaut(Depowered), Darkstar, Century, Rom, Vanguard, Charcoal, Balder, Machine Man, Moonstone, Wizard, Cloak, Kymaera/Namorita, Rage, Black Tarantula, Osiris nosweat

A good portion of that list looks like someone just dumped our (GLA's) potential picks from DL's tourney into it.

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Originally posted by Scoobless
I'd like to suggest that a no power copying rule be put in.

If you go out of your way to create a monster character and some one else just takes two randoms (ie: Rhino & Psylocke) and a power copier as their third, they essentially get 5 characters powers when they mimic the other guy.

Yay or nay?

Originally posted by Scoobless
A good portion of that list looks like someone just dumped our (GLA's) potential picks from DL's tourney into it.

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Christ, they even picked up a few obscure ones (that I never mentioned)

*slightly miffed*

Anyway, I'll do what I can but I've been putting in time-and-a-half on life and it won't let up for at least a few weeks.

Good luck though.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I say yay. Which means you want to ban Super-Adaptoid and Mimic. And probably Black Alice too.

I was meaning characters like Super-Adaptoid who can copy whoever he faces.

Mimic would be ok as he can only copy mutants at half power and would have to dump an ability he already has to do so.

BA is Spectre level and should never have been in consideration for this (or any other) tourney.

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I still say we should ban Mimic and super adaptoid. I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that the list is messed up. 😆

Didn't know about BA. She was just the only copycat I could think of from DC. 😗

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Goober, look that list over again.

This is the latest version of it.

Mid-Tier
Colossus, Thing, Starfire, Thing, Abomination, Wonder Man, Ghost Rider, Rogue, Maul, Ms. Marvel, Blastaar, Captain Britain, Cyborg, Donna Troy, Wonder Girl, Hawkman, Hawkgirl, Guardian I, Classic Nova, Deathlok, Speedfreek, She-Hulk, Atom Smasher, War Machine, Human Torch, The Tick, Thunderstrike, Toxin, Lightning Lad, Havok, Omega Red, Beast Boy, Box, The Flash I (Jay Garrick), Doc Ock, Venom, Carnage, Atlas, Mister Hyde, Attuma, Thunder, Grace Choi, Shift, Power Girl, Aegis, Mary Marvel, Bishop, Crystal, Electro, Jean Grey (sans Phoenix), Emma Frost, Firehawk, Bombshell, Black Canary, Steel, Booster Gold, Psylocke, Rachel Summers, Nico Minoru, Death's Head II, Northstar, Aurora, Vance Astro, Tombstone, Klaw, Radioactive Man, Modok, Jenny Sparks, Elijah Snow, Ambrose Chase, Jakita Wagner, Terra, Blink, Blue Devil Morlun, Blob, Juggernaut(Depowered), Darkstar, Century, Rom, Vanguard, Charcoal, Balder, Machine Man, Moonstone, Wizard, Cloak, Kymaera/Namorita, Rage, Black Tarantula, Osiris

I see some serious problems with this list........... nosweat

But keep in mind that Iron Man IS a lot more powerful than many give him credit for, so many characters who SEEM to be over the caps really aren't.

Havok, Electro, Guardian, and possibly Booster Gold should be kicked. The Tick.............dicey. He's completely invulnerable, isn't he? nosweat

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Havok, Electro, Guardian, and possibly Booster Gold should be kicked. The Tick.............dicey. He's completely invulnerable, isn't he? nosweat

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You really underestimate Ironman if you think those guys should be kicked. (Havok???)

Also, I am kind of confused. Are you saying I could take the body of She-Hulk, the Mind of Tony Stark (therefore also having his amour), and the powers of Invisible Woman?

What about say, the powers of Spiderman? Would I need his body, or would it fall under powers?

Well, current Havok anyway. Apparently according to Mr. Master, Havok is the nexus of realities. He's a god damn abstract. nosweat We had a huge shit fit about Guardian last time, I don't want to go through one again. And sans CIS, in an amalgam, Electro's powers are too good. Booster and the Tick, I dunno.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Also, I am kind of confused. Are you saying I could take the body of She-Hulk, the Mind of Tony Stark (therefore also having his amour), and the powers of Invisible Woman?

What about say, the powers of Spiderman? Would I need his body, or would it fall under powers?

Spidey's abilities would be spit between powers and body. Strength, speed and agility would fall under body, but wall crawling, organic webs, stingers, and spider sense would all fall under powers.

Electro's powers hardly ever stop him form being curbstomped by Spider-Man or Venom types .... hell, the guy used to be afraid of Doc Ock.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Well, current Havok anyway. Apparently according to Mr. Master, Havok is the nexus of realities. He's a god damn abstract. nosweat We had a huge shit fit about Guardian last time, I don't want to go through one again. And sans CIS, in an amalgam, Electro's powers are too good. Booster and the Tick, I dunno.

Guardian is not a problem. You just THINK he is 😬

Ironman is more versatile. Whatever. And Havok? It didnt change his power level 😐

Tick has other weaknesses. He's sweet as hell, but anyone who takes him is screwed....no point in banning him.

Guardian should be fine...there were insane PIS circumstances for that Galactus feat, and otherwise he's fine. Box, Mar-Vell, Engineer were the big "controversies" last tourney.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I still say we should ban Mimic and super adaptoid. I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that the list is messed up. 😆

Didn't know about BA. She was just the only copycat I could think of from DC. 😗

Originally posted by Blair Wind
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You really underestimate Ironman if you think those guys should be kicked. (Havok???)

what do you mean, blair? don't you know that everyone here at the kmc is an expert and knows exactly how and where everyone should be placed in terms of tiers and powerlevels?

i swear to gawd -- between that embarrassment of a tournament last month and the whiners regarding that list thread (which everyone was more than welcome to add to and comment on, btw) this forum has taken a nasty downward spiral of late.

if you're not part of the solution . . .

goob -- it sounds cool, like i told you in the pm's. i'm still a bit unclear in regards to the armor/equipment rules but frankly, i'm not sure you'll be able to handle some of the babies who will want in, nor am i sure it will actually get going. based on some of what i've seen of late, it will fall apart in the drafting process or the whining will reach a point where you simply shut it down.

Maybe it would be simpler to merely cut out the mind/body/power catagories and just let people mix the characters as is.

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Originally posted by leonidas
what do you mean, blair? don't you know that everyone here at the kmc is an expert and knows exactly how and where everyone should be placed in terms of tiers and powerlevels?

oh.....right 😕

The only problem I see on that list is Emma Frost, who gets supremely underrated because Cassandra Nova likes to **** with her head.

Klaw and Mary Marvel are pretty underrated too but I see why they are there.

Alright I guess it's best to handle these one by one...

Originally posted by leonidas
goob -- it sounds cool, like i told you in the pm's.

i'm still a bit unclear in regards to the armor/equipment rules[/B][/QUOTE]
What don't you understand? PM me a scenario if you have something in mind but don't want to make it public. Or just ask here for general clarification.

Originally posted by leonidas
but frankly, i'm not sure you'll be able to handle some of the babies who will want in, nor am i sure it will actually get going.

Originally posted by leonidas
based on some of what i've seen of late, it will fall apart in the drafting process or the whining will reach a point where you simply shut it down.