Originally posted by DigiMark007
It's my understanding that Spiral did at least some of that with prep (the power reversal thing like what happened to Rachel in the scans you guys have been posting is definitely something it took time to do)
Besides the "time" she said, the scan before it shows nothing of her dancing/moving. Time is relative to a few simple gestures 😬
Originally posted by illadelph12Trust me I'm not worried about her but if she can KO Herc and Ironman with one shot and beat Magneto straight up she should be banned.
Spiral has my aproval as a judge. 👆Honestly, she shouldn't be the greatest of everyones' worries.
Everyone has a couple high end feats.
😛
Originally posted by Newjak
Trust me I'm not worried about her but if she can KO Herc and Ironman with one shot and beat Magneto straight up she should be banned.😛
Don't get me wrong, those ARE impressive feats and if things like that constituted the majority of her showings then I'd ban her in a heartbeat. The reason I don't, is because those showings are offset by things like her being stalemated by Beast. It's the average that determines whether or not someone's acceptable, not the high end.
Originally posted by Newjak
What great feat are you going to show that changes anything I just said 😉
great feat? 😑
you think it would be a great feat to show you herc being ko'd by something LESS than 2 fp repulsor blasts straight into his ears?? 😂 i'll indulge you with one simple example: in a battle with sersi he was ko'd when sersi simply flew up in the air a short ways and threw him to the ground! there are loads of lesser feats for herc that i've listed in past threads for people who overrate him. 😉 he's about my fave, but i hate when he's overrated.
though in truth i can't tell if you know less about herc's average feats or less about the full extent of IM's power. 2 full power blasts straight into his ears when he wasn't ready would certainly ko him. not for long, prolly, but he would definitely go down. he has most definitely been ko'd by a lot less.
oh, and yes, i've seen the scans of BK making spiral run. you're right, you'd have our match-up in the bag. 😖hifty:
Originally posted by leonidasMore than you know 😖hifty:
oh, and yes, i've seen the scans of BK making spiral run. you're right, you'd have our match-up in the bag. 😖hifty:
Originally posted by leonidasShe owned him befor ethe power negation as well 😛
she DID own mags.a little . . . 😖hifty:
ps--power negation=banned. 🙂
Originally posted by leonidasShe freed mystique then used Magneto's own attack against him seems like ownage to me 😛
not really. she tied him up a little, but didn't do anything to really threaten him until she shut off his power.and there is a weakness in THAT ability to, just no one has seen it. or no one has mentioned it. 😉
😖hifty:
Originally posted by leonidas
the key factor in both instances was prep -- neither herc nor IM were engaging her, both were effectively helpless/defenseless AND she was both given time AND free to cast her spells.
So we're admitting that her power is over the levels for the tourney ... but she's fine because it takes her a couple of seconds to use those powers?
That's all her "prep" was ... seeing who she could hit then going over and hitting them.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Yes but hasn't Iron Man himself KO'd Hulk a couple of times, stalemated Thor, beat Scourge(who was banned), and beat Surfer(and in fact, didn't Cannonball one shot Gladiator)?
Iron Man KOd Hulk (and not a particularly strong version) after a long drawn out fight, Hulk was dazed by a plane exploding (seems out of character) and the act completely fried his armour.
He's never really stalemated Thor ... just punched him a couple of times, got him pretty angry then survived because the Wasp talked Thor down.
The Surfer thing was pretty retarded ... and THAT only worked because IM was using Surfer's energies to power his armour.
Cannonball hit Gladiator once ... didn't KO him or end the fight or anything really, the X-Men showed up and Glads teleported them off for some space mission.
Originally posted by Scoobless
So we're admitting that her power is over the levels for the tourney ... but she's fine because it takes her a couple of seconds to use those powers?That's all her "prep" was ... seeing who she could hit then going over and hitting them.
nah, i'm saying that if everyone in the tournament just wants to stand still and let me hit them and gives me a little time to cast, i'll kill all of you biatches. 😉
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I don't recall it being direct power negation. She simply over powered him to the point that his abilities were totally canceled out and then negated his powers more directly later.
nah -- she neutralized his powers like she did to cap marvel. that allowed mystique to threaten him with the gun. she then removed his powers so he couldn't use them again later. like she did to the avengers when she had a lot of time to cast.
anyway -- no power negation=irrelvent discussion. 🙂
Not me. I got crazy magic resist.
And I have the black knight if that matters
well then, you should both be completely safe. 😉
