Questions about Karma

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
i am actually speaking as your friend, isn't this viewed as a lesson b/c you believe in karma? and if there aren't distinctions in negative and positive, if they are mutual, then doesn't the negative have just as much right as the positive, and if this is true, and you view this experience with Grand as negative, won't it come out positive since neither one really exists or they are the same so they cancel each other out? sorry for the sarcasm.

I do not view my experience with Grand as being negative.

Good and bad are relative. Example: a predator takes down pray in the wild; to the pray, this act is bad, but to the predator, the act is good.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
How do you personally implement your belief in Karma in your daily life?

How do you implement the law of gravity in your daily life?

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
I am glad.

Thanks, you understand it better than I do.

[b]Question Time

How do you personally implement your belief in Karma in your daily life? [/B]

I don't worship Karma, i think some aspects of life can be seen as karmic, but i like Catholic stuff, even though i am no catholic, the 7 deadly sins are pretty good thing to avoid, see, in Christianity, we only focus on the negative in order to avoid it, we don't honor it, if i am wrong, let me know.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I do not view my experience with Grand as being negative.

Good and bad are relative. Example: a predator takes down pray in the wild; to the pray, this act is bad, but to the predator, the act is good.

i have real problems with that philosophy, it really does bug me, even purgatory bugs me sometimes...does the negative HAVE to teach us positive, why does the negative get a positive place of honor? this has been some of my troubles when trying to accept Eastern philosophy.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
I don't worship Karma, i think some aspects of life can be seen as karmic, but i like Catholic stuff, even though i am no catholic, the 7 deadly sins are pretty good thing to avoid, see, in Christianity, we only focus on the negative in order to avoid it, we don't honor it, if i am wrong, let me know.

Well, if your separating Catholicism from Christianity then you could look at it like this:

Message of the Catholic Church: Live a good life, go to Heaven.

Message of the Post-Reformation Churches: If you dare live a bad life. You'll go to Hell!

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
i have real problems with that philosophy, it really does bug me, even purgatory bugs me sometimes...does the negative HAVE to teach us positive, why does the negative get a positive place of honor.

Negative does not get a place of honor, but neither does positive.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I do not view my experience with Grand as being negative.

Good and bad are relative. Example: a predator takes down pray in the wild; to the pray, this act is bad, but to the predator, the act is good.

How do you implement the law of gravity in your daily life?

I don't the Laws of Gravity is absolute garbage, there are things out in space which act totally contradictory to Newton's Laws.

Apparently I asked the wrong question, but what can I say, I am new to this, your meant to explain it too me. Let me try again.

What does Karma mean to you?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Negative does not get a place of honor, but neither does positive.

positive does have honor, i know that in certain circumstances, both are the same, but not in all.

sorry, but canceling out positive to save face of the negative is really something else.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
positive does have honor, i know that in certain circumstances, both are the same, but not in all.

sorry, but canceling out positive to save face of the negative is really something else.

I do not understand your point of view, and that is probably why you do not understand mine.

Positive and negatives do not exist independent of one another.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
I don't the Laws of Gravity is absolute garbage, there are things out in space which act totally contradictory to Newton's Laws.

Apparently I asked the wrong question, but what can I say, I am new to this, your meant to explain it too me. Let me try again.

What does Karma mean to you?

Karma is the river that I am on. Does that help?

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
I don't the Laws of Gravity is absolute garbage, there are things out in space which act totally contradictory to Newton's Laws.

Apparently I asked the wrong question, but what can I say, I am new to this, your meant to explain it too me. Let me try again.

What does Karma mean to you?

i think the POINT he was trying to make was that KARMA is an omnipresent aspect contributing to your existance so u cant really implement it in your life like a doctrine. personally i think u can infer things from the possible phenomenon and think of ways to WORK OUT BETTER in a specific flow or phenomenon.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Karma is the river that I am on. Does that help?

Does it affect how you make decisions? Do you stop and think...of the Karmacal Implications?

Originally posted by leonheartmm
i think the POINT he was trying to make was that KARMA is an omnipresent aspect contributing to your existance so u cant really implement it in your life like a doctrine. personally i think u can infer things from the possible phenomenon and think of ways to WORK OUT BETTER in a specific flow or phenomenon.

Yes, he explained that.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
i think the POINT he was trying to make was that KARMA is an omnipresent aspect contributing to your existance so u cant really implement it in your life like a doctrine. personally i think u can infer things from the possible phenomenon and think of ways to WORK OUT BETTER in a specific flow or phenomenon.

Thank you.

It is possible to change your karma for the better. Please re-read the last section on Simultaneity of cause and effect.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Does it affect how you make decisions? Do you stop and think...of the Karmacal Implications?

Please re-read the last section on Simultaneity of cause and effect, and then ask me questions.

So, cause and effect are linked and inseparable...but therefore does your knowledge of Karma mean you can act in a way that provides the best effects thus gives you the best lifestyle?

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
So, cause and effect are linked and inseparable...but therefore does your knowledge of Karma mean you can act in a way that provides the best effects thus gives you the best lifestyle?

Yes. I can change my karma with my Buddhahood life condition.

Imagine you could stand outside of time, and see all of time stretched out before you. In the Lotus Sutra it states that we all will gain enlightenment. So, you are enlightened in the future. Buddhahood is that future state of being that reaches through all time. Because you will be enlightened in the future, and Buddhahood is not bound by time, you can access your enlightenment now.

So if I worked hard enough, presumably through meditation I would become as enlightened as the Buddha?

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
So if I worked hard enough, presumably through meditation I would become as enlightened as the Buddha?

No. You cannot gain enlightenment through deeds. You cannot gain something you already have. What you have to do is wake up and realize your enlightenment.

So I am enlightened...but I haven't realised that yet?

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
So I am enlightened...but I haven't realised that yet?

You and every other living thing.