ANH Obi-Wan vs. ANH Darth Vader

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darthsith19 Arm-Wrestler

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
Didn't GG have mechanical legs? Hmm...

And no, when he first walked up on Luke, he was kind of stumbling. And one part in a cantina scene doesn't trump everything else we see in the movie.


GG was fast, but not acrobatic. The one scene proves his speed, there's no reason to disregard that scene. He doesn't stumble, either.

Darth Subjekt The beginning of the end.

No, if he was "so fast" one minute against a non force user, then he's slow against someone where speed would matter, then ya know what? He's not that fast in all his movements...

darthsith19 Arm-Wrestler

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
No, if he was "so fast" one minute against a non force user, then he's slow against someone where speed would matter, then ya know what? He's not that fast in all his movements...

Doesn't matter, so if Yoda had only ever fought against Dooku in AOTC and never in ROTS then by that logic he'd still be slow since that was just one scene? Lol, no, that logic doesn't work, if he's fast once then he can be just as fast again, even if he never displayed such speed again, unless there's proof that the speed diminished, which there isn't, then that's how fast ANH Kenobi is capable of being.

Darth Subjekt The beginning of the end.

that logic does work, cause Ben wasn't fighting then, he merely moved his arms once. That in no way means he could constant;y keep that seed up throughout the duration of a duel. He was nowhere near being fast in his duel against Vader, when it counted...besides, Lucas said that the fight was slow and uncoordinated because it was an old man vs a half man, half cyborg...so right there, there's no more debate...he was slow, and not up to the dueling standards of the PT era...which includes his AOTC self...

vader11 Senior Member

Ben must be slower than before, but I don't know how much slower. Even if he wasn't try his best when fight Vader in ANH, I don't think he can much faster than that.

Darth Subjekt The beginning of the end.

He isn't. And although this isn't the AOTC OB1 vs. ANH Ben thread, even in comparing the two bar scenes, Alec Guiness is simply NOT as fast as Ewan McGregor...simple as that. Vader wins this cause he is simply the better warrior. More powerful and proficient in the force, a hell of a lot stronger, despite the hindrance of the suit, more mobile and agile...he's just better. All the ben fanboys can argue against that all they want, but it doesn't change it. If Ben had nothing to lose by beating Vader in ANH, then he would have. but he couldn't so he sacrificed himself...