Cosmic Glaze (Surfer) vs Adamantium (Logan)

Originally posted by Acrosurge
This is an excellent point. Put Wolverine up against Tenebrous and Aegis and let us see how his adamantium holds up.

Look at Surfer in this scan, (just after fighting A&T):

http://i82.imagethrust.com/images/3svI/view-image/annihilation-heraldsofgalactus-2--040.html

He was broken, his board had holes in it, and both feet and a hand seem to have been blown off.

It's not like he came away without a scratch, infact SS would have died had Galactus not saved his life.

Now if Wolverine went up against A&T, sure his person would be disintegrated, but what would become of his skeleton?

srug

Originally posted by Galan007
That's not really a good way to test the more durable of the two though.

Look at Surfer in this scan, (just after fighting A&T):

http://i82.imagethrust.com/images/3svI/view-image/annihilation-heraldsofgalactus-2--040.html

He was broken, his board had holes in it, and both feet and a hand seem to have been blown off.

It's not like he came away without a scratch, infact SS would have died had Galactus not saved his life.

Now if Wolverine went up against A&T, sure his person would be disintegrated, but what would become of his skeleton?

srug

That happened riding the big crunch energies. After simply being attacked by Tenebrous and Aegis, he wasn't nearly so destroyed.

Originally posted by Soljer
That happened riding the big crunch energies. After simply being attacked by Tenebrous and Aegis, he wasn't nearly so destroyed.

And this was Surfer before going into the BC:

http://i81.imagethrust.com/images/3svA/view-image/annihilation-heraldsofgalactus-2--036.html

Do you see higher grade adamantium being as broken?

I honestly don't.

Galan has a legit point.

The fact is that we have seen surfer's board and body broken. That is a panel fact.

We have not seen Adamantium affected in the same way. I do think however that it is not unreasonable to think that Adamantium would break if enough pressure is applied.

I mean SS flies through starts, survives planet destroying blasts, and hits from Beings like Galactus.

I am not an expert on Adamantium, but how was it originally melted to turn it into swords, claws etc.

Originally posted by Galan007
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And this was Surfer before going into the BC:

http://i81.imagethrust.com/images/3svA/view-image/annihilation-heraldsofgalactus-2--036.html

Do you see higher grade adamantium being as broken?

I honestly don't.

After being blasted by two Galan-level beings?

Uhhh...😕.

Hell yes!

Originally posted by Soljer
After being blasted by two Galan-level beings?

Uhhh...😕.

Hell yes!

They could have been very powerful,

Or could have been not so powerful.

We don't know.

Surfer's skin more resistant to molecular, heat, cold, blasts, etc as well

adamantium seems more durable againt bricking against, breaking etc..

Originally posted by Galan007
But how powerful were the blasts they fired?

They could have been very powerful,

Or could have been not so powerful.

We don't know.

We know that they were VASTLY more powerful than planet-busting attacks/Supernovas/black holes, as the Surfer has survived all of the above with nary a scratch.

Do you believe that you could stick Wolverine's left arm through several planet busting attacks, followed by a supernova, and then a dip in a black hole and have it be fine and dandy?

Originally posted by Soljer
Do you believe that you could stick Wolverine's left arm through several planet busting attacks, followed by a supernova, and then a dip in a black hole and have it be fine and dandy?

Since adamantium has never undergone such punishment, it's impossible to say whether or not it could or couldn't endure this.

Originally posted by Galan007
I can't answer that accurately.

Since adamantium has never undergone such punishment, it's impossible to say whether or not it could or couldn't endure this.

No, but it has been utterly obliterated by a (seemingly low-powered) blast from King Thor. Who, by all rights, is quite a bit less powerful than either Aegis or Tenebrous.

Originally posted by Soljer
No, but it has been utterly obliterated by a (seemingly low-powered) blast from King Thor. Who, by all rights, is quite a bit less powerful than either Aegis or Tenebrous.

I did not know about this.

Originally posted by tkitna
I think that was the Hulk when he grabbed an adamantium statue and threw it at Thor. I think theres a scan of it in the Hulks respect thread.

I don't think first-grade adamantium has ever been damaged in continuity. Pretty much every time we see some one damage adamantium, it's some lower grade version.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
This is an excellent point. Put Wolverine up against Tenebrous and Aegis and let us see how his adamantium holds up.

Heck, I'd put Adamantium below Uru, but that's just me.

Originally posted by Galan007
Scan?

I did not know about this.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah I found that issue, but I wouldn't say Wolvie's skeleton was utterly obliterated by KT.

I had never seen, or at least remembered the detail of that scan.

It does seem that the Adamantium is at least bending/melting doesn't it.

What do we think on odin power blast like that would do to SS. We have seen Odin knock him out, but would it damage his outer layer, or his board?

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
I had never seen, or at least remembered the detail of that scan.

It does seem that the Adamantium is at least bending/melting doesn't it.

What do we think on odin power blast like that would do to SS. We have seen Odin knock him out, but would it damage his outer layer, or his board?

When Odin knocked him out, his body was totally undamaged.

Comparatively, when Tenebrous and Aegis unleashed on him, he was cracked and hurt.

Anyways, in that King Thor scan, it certainly doesn't seem like he's trying too hard. Also, later on, King Thor blasts Captain America's shield into pieces with another eye beam. Captain America's shield is even more durable than primary adamantium. If a novice skyfather (King Thor was no where near as powerful as Odin) could obliterate Adamantium, or a metal even STRONGER than Adamantium with such ease, I'm certain the cosmic gods that have attacked the Surfer (to little avail) would have next to no problem.

Originally posted by Soljer
Anyways, in that King Thor scan, it certainly doesn't seem like he's trying too hard. Also, later on, King Thor blasts Captain America's shield into pieces with another eye beam. Captain America's shield is even more durable than primary adamantium. If a novice skyfather (King Thor was no where near as powerful as Odin) could obliterate Adamantium, or a metal even STRONGER than Adamantium with such ease,

Originally posted by Soljer
I'm certain the cosmic gods that have attacked the Surfer (to little avail)

Surfer was not the more powerful character in that battle.

Originally posted by Galan007
Was it just me, or did KT seem unusually powerful in that arc?
In all fairness to A&T, they were standing over a beaten Surfer..... They could have killed him, but opted not to.

Surfer was not the more powerful character in that battle.

I wasn't saying that the Surfer WAS the more powerful character. Nor was I only referring to T&A.

The Surfer has been attacked by MANY foes that were VASTLY more powerful than King Thor, and has been okay throughout most of it. At the very least, he wasn't melted or destroyed, as the Adamantium was by King Thor.

Originally posted by Galan007
Was it just me, or did KT seem unusually powerful in that arc?
In all fairness to A&T, they were standing over a beaten Surfer..... They could have killed him, but opted not to.

Also, no, he was really kind of a pussy.

Now, when you get to his later appearances... he just might be more powerful than Odin... maybe.