Cosmic Glaze (Surfer) vs Adamantium (Logan)

Started by Stupid Rookie3 pages

Originally posted by Soljer
When Odin knocked him out, his body was totally undamaged.

Comparatively, when Tenebrous and Aegis unleashed on him, he was cracked and hurt.

Anyways, in that King Thor scan, it certainly doesn't seem like he's trying too hard. Also, later on, King Thor blasts Captain America's shield into pieces with another eye beam. Captain America's shield is even more durable than primary adamantium. If a novice skyfather (King Thor was no where near as powerful as Odin) could obliterate Adamantium, or a metal even STRONGER than Adamantium with such ease, I'm certain the cosmic gods that have attacked the Surfer (to little avail) would have next to no problem.

That is the way I remember it.

Destroying Cap's shield is very impressive and honestly that leaves me to believe that SS's Glaze is more powerful. It is a hard thing to judge though. I mean would Durok the destroyer (spelling?) be able to break Cap's shield? I doubt it, but didn't he break SS's board. SS's board is annoying to me (a big SS fan) because sometimes people break it too easily. I mean really sometimes breaking it is like nothing.

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
That is the way I remember it.

Destroying Cap's shield is very impressive and honestly that leaves me to believe that SS's Glaze is more powerful. It is a hard thing to judge though. I mean would Durok the destroyer (spelling?) be able to break Cap's shield? I doubt it, but didn't he break SS's board. SS's board is annoying to me (a big SS fan) because sometimes people break it too easily. I mean really sometimes breaking it is like nothing.


well thay say its part of him mabey it has to due with his power levels at the time?

Originally posted by xjustice69x
well thay say its part of him mabey it has to due with his power levels at the time?

A definite possibility. He looked strong against Morg and Durok though. I am trying to think of other people who broke it.

i think cable did it once, but im not sure if it was a "what if"

Originally posted by xjustice69x
i think cable did it once, but im not sure if it was a "what if"

That is right, "god-like" Cable did it. I had forgotten, thanks.

in theory the board should be stronger then his skin due to its thickness

Originally posted by xjustice69x
in theory the board should be stronger then his skin due to its thickness

Surfer's entire body is composed of the 'glaze.'

To put it simply, he's solid silver, not silver plated.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk

Did this happen in 616 universe and is it cannon?

It was mentioned in the wikipedia that Thor w/ full strength throw/swing from his hammer slightly dented true adamantium while WMThor knocked Surfer out w/ a full swing from his hammer yet no damage done to his body.. (Warlock mentioned that still being unconscious does pose a big problem to Surfer health dough..lol) looks like C G more durable in the physical application of force too.

Dont think the board is harder than his skin, just diff. composition (hardness) kinda like true and 2ndary adamantium, how else could you explain 2-3 full swing from Morgs axe toward SS body only put him unconscious, yet while running through it mid swing split his board..
Or maybe its just that the body holds more PC than the board making it more durable..

Anyhow id def. take Cosmic glaze back by PC more durable than adamantium, it gets stronger when it is enhance by it.. checked Enslaver saga When Wyngard had a portion of SS powers and attack the mother ship, he says it there.. But since its just C G vs true Adamantium, ive got to say Adamantium takes it..

Originally posted by Roldz
Did this happen in 616 universe and is it cannon?

It was mentioned in the wikipedia that Thor w/ full strength throw/swing from his hammer slightly dented true adamantium while WMThor knocked Surfer out w/ a full swing from his hammer yet no damage done to his body.. (Warlock mentioned that still being unconscious does pose a big problem to Surfer health dough..lol) looks like C G more durable in the physical application of force too.

Dont think the board is harder than his skin, just diff. composition (hardness) kinda like true and 2ndary adamantium, how else could you explain 2-3 full swing from Morgs axe toward SS body only put him unconscious, yet while running through it mid swing split his board..
Or maybe its just that the body holds more PC than the board making it more durable..

Anyhow id def. take Cosmic glaze back by PC more durable than adamantium, it gets stronger when it is enhance by it.. checked Enslaver saga When Wyngard had a portion of SS powers and attack the mother ship, he says it there.. But since its just C G vs true Adamantium, ive got to say Adamantium takes it..


yea any one know what comic that is?
yea i dont think the board is harder per say. like diamond to steel, but i do think its stronger structure wise.
i think thay are the same matirial. the reason he would be able to take a shot by the axe and the board cant is proly the PC backing him.
when cosmic power is backing the glaze controled by a conscious user. its proly stronger then normal.
not that its means anything but ,
i remeber in the old marvel rpg system the surfers board was as strong as caps shield. and both where stronger then tru adimantium.
though surfers skin was much less then the others.

hmmm im cunfused now lol

Originally posted by xjustice69x
yea any one know what comic that is?
Thor dented this form of adamantium in Avengers 66.

Cosmic Glaze still sounds like a donut 😬

Originally posted by CasanoVa
Cosmic Glaze still sounds like a donut 😬

Reminds me of that Shrike armor . . .

Wait, didn't SS once fly through a wall of adamantium or something like that. I seem to remember his flying through it to get Nova. I haven't seen the comic in a long time, maybe I am mistaken. I will check it out when I get home from work, and maybe have something to add.

Ok I was wrong, it was vibranium, not adamantium.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
Cosmic Glaze still sounds like a donut 😬

*drools*

Mmmmnnn.....cosmic glaze.....

Uggghggghhh....

Originally posted by Roldz
Did this happen in 616 universe and is it cannon?
Yes, and if it isn't canon, then there is no such thing as King Thor.
Also, it happened, and King Thor went back to the past, to get the current King Thor to stop it.
Same universe, same rules, and it would have happened if Thor hadn't went back to the past.

Also, to answer an earlier question about the comic number with Wolverine, etc. It is Thor V2 #73 The Reigning 5.

thanks for the issue # WWH!!

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
Wait, didn't SS once fly through a wall of adamantium or something like that. I seem to remember his flying through it to get Nova. I haven't seen the comic in a long time, maybe I am mistaken. I will check it out when I get home from work, and maybe have something to add.

sounds familiar