But those can be countered by Jean's tk shield? She must have tough shields because she said that she's got more than enough tk power to hold Juggernaut in place.
And for those who know, what does unlimited potential mean?Does it mean Jean can literally break the planet in two with tk because she has unlimited power and also because Xavier said that omegas can bring about the end?
as a result of training with XAVIER, MAGNETO, CABLE, PHOENIX, PSYLOCKE & more recently E. Frost Storm's psi shields are configured to run continuosly like Magneto.
Storm blinds Jeanie psychically saturating the immediate environment with a concentrated ion field.A hybrid dust-storm-hurricane-blizzard neutralises Jean's five natural senses
oooooo! {remember how easily Hank Mccoy fashioned an elecric neural dampener to short out the mind of DARK PHOENIX "THE CHAOS BRINGER"
Try again.
Lightning is going to have no effect on Jean whatsoever. She's blocked it before, and she's fought side by side with Storm for years while she's used lightning. Why all of a sudden is it going to be an issue?
Originally posted by psy_blade
But those can be countered by Jean's tk shield? She must have tough shields because she said that she's got more than enough tk power to hold Juggernaut in place.And for those who know, what does unlimited potential mean?Does it mean Jean can literally break the planet in two with tk because she has unlimited power and also because Xavier said that omegas can bring about the end?
1) She made that claim about being able to hold Juggernaut *LONG* enough for the others to get there to hold her and she was in straining position when she said that. Juggernaut just shrugged off the threat. I don't think Jean could do that and certainly not if Juggernaut is given his full credit.
2) She needs the PF to do that.
Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
And this might make a difference if she weren't fighting a telepath of Jean Grey's ability, especially considering that she is one of the TPs that trained her in TP resistance.No. Emma Frost is much more deadly to Storm than Jean. Emma ripped through her mind during the Dark Phoenix Saga and found all kinds of ways into Storm's mind to hurt her. This is what Logan was referring to in "Schism" when he said that Emma could probably hurt Storm in ways no other could. However, as we saw in "Schism" and Uncanny 152, Storm's defenses are more than a match for Emma even given this advantage. Jean vs. Storm is no contest. STorm wins.
And this is certain to happen because we all know that Jean can't fly, right?What is flying going to do to help her with his thing? That snow will be in the air as well.
Lightning is going to have no effect on Jean whatsoever. She's blocked it before, and she's fought side by side with Storm for years while she's used lightning. Why all of a sudden is it going to be an issue?
If lightning had no issue with her while fighting alongside Ororo, Storm must have been controlling it. The fact is, EM energies have affected telepathy for many, many years. Storm's lightning should have been able to stop telepathy cold from the get-go.
No. Emma Frost is much more deadly to Storm than Jean. Emma ripped through her mind during the Dark Phoenix Saga and found all kinds of ways into Storm's mind to hurt her. This is what Logan was referring to in "Schism" when he said that Emma could probably hurt Storm in ways no other could. However, as we saw in "Schism" and Uncanny 152, Storm's defenses are more than a match for Emma even given this advantage. Jean vs. Storm is no contest. STorm wins.
What is flying going to do to help her with his thing? That snow will be in the air as well.
If lightning had no issue with her while fighting alongside Ororo, Storm must have been controlling it. The fact is, EM energies have affected telepathy for many, many years. Storm's lightning should have been able to stop telepathy cold from the get-go.
[QUOTE=8776695]Originally posted by Rutog98
[B]1) She made that claim about being able to hold Juggernaut *LONG* enough for the others to get there to hold her and she was in straining position when she said that. Juggernaut just shrugged off the threat. I don't think Jean could do that and certainly not if Juggernaut is given his full credit.
Jean was not straining when she said that. She sensed that Cain wasn't moving while telekinetically bound because Cain didn't want to fight. I do think Jean has the power to hold Cain via tk, it is on panel. Plus she penetrated Cain's helmet w/ tp. It shows that Jeans mutant powers are greater than Juggernaut's armor magic enchantments.
Originally posted by Cosmic FlameYou mean the device she shorted out in 5 seconds?
Try again.
great ya acknowledge the effectiveness of the electron dampener.
5 seconds was a generous ampunt of time for Wolverine to decapitate a depowered PHOENIX... Logan could not go through with it. [Neither could Scott]. he hesitated/froze/choked looking into her eyes, holding her in his arms hanging onto her every word... hoping for the best.
5 seconds is more than Adequate for Storm to pull the trigger
Originally posted by Rutog98
This is not true. The issue states blatanly what Storm did with her lightning. It ran through the complex and destroyed all traces of the elixer to avoid a dangerous confrontation. It also states in plain english what Jean's force-field did. It blocked out the glass hurled by the lightning. Storm has excellent control over her abilities. If she did not want the lightning to touch the field, it would not. She was not trying to hurt her team.Before you try, I know that there are a handful of PIS issues/instances out there that play down the amount of fine-tune control Storm has. However, there are plenty of instances to establish her fine-tune control.
That said, none of that has any bearing here as the issue outlined exactly what Storm did and what Jean did in plain english and Jean's force-field could barely withstand the impact of the glass hurled by the force of Storm's lightning. Now, imagine if this were a death-duel between Storm and Jean and Ororo aimed her bolts at JEan's field instead of the glass. It would have been MUCH worse for Jean Grey.
Stop adding to the text to beef up Jean and play down Storm. Ororo is much more powerful than Jean Grey.
Remember the word barely, as in it barely got through, meaning it did not. My point being that Storm went wild and still didn't get through, if storm is at full fury then it only takes jean to think "my shield can't be penetrated by lightning" and it is so.
ok this constant back and forth babble is tiresome to read. jean can obviously use tk and tp. storm can obviously defend herself no mater what is used tk or tp. the battle will go as this:
the battle ground is a deserted city, the two women are a mile apart. jean flies behind a building, just in case any lightning bolts come her way. storm takes to the sky and flies above the building jean hide behind. she looks over in hopes to spot jean, no jean. she feels a disfunction in the wind so she darts straght up, dodging a tk controled car that was thrown by jean. storm turns to attack but jean dives behind another building, to avoid a lightning strike. but storm fills that entire city block with lightning. jean barely makes it through. storm stops her assualt and checks for jean, no jean. this time storm uses her flash freeze to create a block of ice then the wind to quickly carve it to an aceptable figure. storm flies to another building and shelters behind an antenna. she creates several tornadoes around the area of her decoy making some more wind lift it in the air as if it were flying. jean catches a glimps of what looks like storm creating tornadoes to flush her out. jean uses this to throw a psi blast and knock the decoy out of the sky. the tornadoes disperse. as it seems jean to be the victor. she flies to check on her fallen friend. only to see a broken ice figurine. quickly jean puts up a phsychic barrior just in time to recieve a furrious gust of wind that blows her down dragging her accross the ground hard.luckily she put up a barrior or she would have been grounded. still shielded in her barrior she suddenly recieves some lightning bolts. storm flies down and around her so she wouldnt be able to focus on her. she tells storm she wont get through her barrior, but storm laughs it off. she lifts jean and her barrior in a whirlwind and twirls her about knocking her into walls and buildings. she knows that jean cant take much abuse while shielding herself. a few moments later jean starts to weaken and her barrior drops. storm stops her wind assault, because she and jean are still friends. suddenly jean looks at storm, long enough to focus on her. she throws storm toward a building then back again. tossing storm back and forth. storm created an electrical storm. not to harm jean but block her tk. jean was unable to use her tk due to storms distance and electricity. jean weakend by being slammed around while in her shield and storm weakened by the use of her powers and being tossed around. the two women stand apart from each other awaiting a reation... jean suddenly fires a tk blast, but its dodged. storm uses a swift gust of wind to push herself out of the way and before jean could react she is hit by a lighning bolt and taken out.
storm wins!
storm can block tk with distance and elctricity. the scan has been show multiple times on here. obviously no one can get into her head unless they want to hurt themselves.
check this out. telepaths must do this to use their powers. its not just a thought, its not that easy for them. in tk and tp a telepath must become one with what they are trying to controle. why do you think they get hurt when their shield is hit hard enough. so, in tk when they focus on their target then they can do what they can do almost anything they think. now tp a telepath must become one with a persons mind. they can controle their thoughts or get information or erase information. in storms case if a telepath is connected to her mind which has electricity in it, they'd get hurt. for storm if she where to use her lightning in a battle against a telepath, it would take the same effects as if in her head acept only not causing pain, because connecting to a mind that has electricity in it, will automaticly hurt you. though physically lightning only breaks the connection, if storm wants to hurt you she'd hit you with a bolt.
so.
jean= focus, connect, think.
storm= target, think.
Originally posted by stormfront
storm can block tk with distance and elctricity. the scan has been show multiple times on here. obviously no one can get into her head unless they want to hurt themselves.check this out. telepaths must do this to use their powers. its not just a thought, its not that easy for them. in tk and tp a telepath must become one with what they are trying to controle. why do you think they get hurt when their shield is hit hard enough. so, in tk when they focus on their target then they can do what they can do almost anything they think. now tp a telepath must become one with a persons mind. they can controle their thoughts or get information or erase information. in storms case if a telepath is connected to her mind which has electricity in it, they'd get hurt. for storm if she where to use her lightning in a battle against a telepath, it would take the same effects as if in her head acept only not causing pain, because connecting to a mind that has electricity in it, will automaticly hurt you. though physically lightning only breaks the connection, if storm wants to hurt you she'd hit you with a bolt.
so.
jean= focus, connect, think.
storm= target, think.
But Storm can't do that because she manipulates weather and there are no electrons in spacedur