Where would someone like Mantis be placed?
Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't know, high meta seems to be a little low. I mean the girl one shotted Thor, took on a Thanos clone solo, and was able to knock around an Elder of the Universe. I'd say she's easily a low level herald. 😬
That was my first reaction.
And then Strange dodged her 😐
😛
But seriously she's in very good company in HighMeta.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That was my first reaction.And then Strange dodged her 😐
😛
But seriously she's in very good company in HighMeta.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I tried to get him up to mid herald, but it was shot down. Partially because Vision kicked his ass twice. srug
Takes a full power double disruptor blast point blank from Yellow Jacket(which according to Pym would stun Thor momentarily) without blinking followed by the best Wonderman can muster(and Wonderman goes on to put WM through a wall with one shot)…
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/562/avengers16503rs2.jpg
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/692/avengers16504if4.jpg
Topples a forty story building with ease…
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/8118/avengers16506gc7.jpg
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/7695/avengers16507hj3.jpg
In another fight(I’m omitting the early part of the fight where he beats on guys like Cap) he…
Takes out Iron Man(who had maxed out his armor) and Wonderman with ease…
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/6951/avengers16515vq7.jpg
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4497/avengers16516rq2.jpg
…and then AFTER taking out Cap, Beast, Black Panther, Scarlet Witch, Iron Man, and Wonderman he goes on to fight Thor…
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/1425/avengers16601dm5.jpg
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/5010/avengers16602td0.jpg
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/7923/avengers16603oq6.jpg
Notice that Thor says that he throws over a skyscraper “with a casual ease even I could not match”. Sounds like an admission of superior strength to me.
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/5013/avengers16604lf3.jpg
Thor compares Nepheria to the Asgardian Destroyer, Nepheria take several lightning bolts and then proceeds to catch Thor’s hammer in mid-swing(and unlike Supes, Nepheria’s not a flagship hero)…
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/5013/avengers16604lf3.jpg
And anyone who says “Yeah but he was taken out by Vision”, needs to remember that Neferia was actually losing power throughout that entire fight and had been fighting for quite a while. And it wasn’t just Vision that took him down, the last couple of pages of that fight he’d taken the best the Avengers had to offer….
Takes a shot from Vision, a fall from quite a height, a shot from Wonderman, and a full power shot from Wasp…
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/4139/avengers16613nh0.jpg
Takes a repulsor blast(then KO’s Iron Man), a shot from Thor’s hammer, and a Hex from Scarlet Witch…
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7536/avengers16614li7.jpg
Takes ANOTHER shot from Thor(while still under the effects of the Hex) and then after taking all that damage(and beating on the entire Avengers roster various times) he gets taken out by the Vision who shifts to maximum density and falls on Nepheria from a mile up in the air…
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9862/avengers16615px2.jpg
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/3522/avengers16616ky7.jpg
So yes he got taken out by the Vision but who the Hell WOULDN’T after all that?
Now I don’t know for sure what people are talking about when they say that Vision kicked his ass another time, but if it’s what I’m thinking of that was hardly the case. Here after beating on the Avengers and the Thunderbolts Vision attacks Nepheria with a full body phase, but Nepheria get’s out of it…
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6894/avengersv334thenefariappj6.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7896/avengersv334thenefariapzx3.jpg
And that doesn’t even really make sense to me, because they already established that Vision CAN’T phase into Nepheria(so the whole instance may be a case of PIS) …
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1803/avengers16607ig9.jpg
I have a couple of more scans if people really need to see them, but I’d say that he’s AT LEAST a mid level herald(and likely a high level herald).
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Hmmm. Nefaria just went up the charts quite a bit IMO. So could he take Superman?
Originally posted by darthgoober
Well I still have to get a hold of several of his appearances, but from what I've found so far he may actually fit better into the High Level Herald category.Takes a full power double disruptor blast point blank from Yellow Jacket(which according to Pym would stun Thor momentarily) without blinking followed by the best Wonderman can muster(and Wonderman goes on to put WM through a wall with one shot)…
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/562/avengers16503rs2.jpg
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/692/avengers16504if4.jpgTopples a forty story building with ease…
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/8118/avengers16506gc7.jpg
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/7695/avengers16507hj3.jpgIn another fight(I’m omitting the early part of the fight where he beats on guys like Cap) he…
Takes out Iron Man(who had maxed out his armor) and Wonderman with ease…
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/6951/avengers16515vq7.jpg
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4497/avengers16516rq2.jpg…and then AFTER taking out Cap, Beast, Black Panther, Scarlet Witch, Iron Man, and Wonderman he goes on to fight Thor…
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/1425/avengers16601dm5.jpg
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/5010/avengers16602td0.jpg
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/7923/avengers16603oq6.jpgNotice that Thor says that he throws over a skyscraper “with a casual ease even I could not match”. Sounds like an admission of superior strength to me.
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/5013/avengers16604lf3.jpgThor compares Nepheria to the Asgardian Destroyer, Nepheria take several lightning bolts and then proceeds to catch Thor’s hammer in mid-swing(and unlike Supes, Nepheria’s not a flagship hero)…
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/5013/avengers16604lf3.jpgAnd anyone who says “Yeah but he was taken out by Vision”, needs to remember that Neferia was actually losing power throughout that entire fight and had been fighting for quite a while. And it wasn’t just Vision that took him down, the last couple of pages of that fight he’d taken the best the Avengers had to offer….
Takes a shot from Vision, a fall from quite a height, a shot from Wonderman, and a full power shot from Wasp…
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/4139/avengers16613nh0.jpgTakes a repulsor blast(then KO’s Iron Man), a shot from Thor’s hammer, and a Hex from Scarlet Witch…
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7536/avengers16614li7.jpgTakes ANOTHER shot from Thor(while still under the effects of the Hex) and then after taking all that damage(and beating on the entire Avengers roster various times) he gets taken out by the Vision who shifts to maximum density and falls on Nepheria from a mile up in the air…
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9862/avengers16615px2.jpg
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/3522/avengers16616ky7.jpgSo yes he got taken out by the Vision but who the Hell WOULDN’T after all that?
Now I don’t know for sure what people are talking about when they say that Vision kicked his ass another time, but if it’s what I’m thinking of that was hardly the case. Here after beating on the Avengers and the Thunderbolts Vision attacks Nepheria with a full body phase, but Nepheria get’s out of it…
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6894/avengersv334thenefariappj6.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7896/avengersv334thenefariapzx3.jpgAnd that doesn’t even really make sense to me, because they already established that Vision CAN’T phase into Nepheria(so the whole instance may be a case of PIS) …
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1803/avengers16607ig9.jpgI have a couple of more scans if people really need to see them, but I’d say that he’s AT LEAST a mid level herald(and likely a high level herald).
Impressive...
He needs to be bumped up to mid level herald.
