KMC Comic Book Tiers

Actually, with the exception of Thor and a couple others, it seems like most Ultimate characters would just go in the same tier as their 616 counterpart. They're weaker for the most part but not enough to go in a different spot.

Originally posted by Validus
Actually, with the exception of Thor and a couple others, it seems like most Ultimate characters would just go in the same tier as their 616 counterpart. They're weaker for the most part but not enough to go in a different spot.

Most, yeah. But I have yet to see many people that equal the top tier cosmics of 616. Even Ultimate Surfer was impressive, but his showings are so limited that it makes it hard to justify high herald.

Otherwise, I can't think of many that are much > or < than their 616 counterparts. ( < ): Juggernaut, Rogue. ( > ): Colossus

Originally posted by Blur
Nah, Thor could have crushed him. Thor low herald. 😎

...but he didn't. That's just speculation.

😛

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Most, yeah. But I have yet to see many people that equal the top tier cosmics of 616. Even Ultimate Surfer was impressive, but his showings are so limited that it makes it hard to justify high herald.

Otherwise, I can't think of many that are much > or < than their 616 counterparts. ( < ): Juggernaut, Rogue. ( > ): Colossus

...but he didn't. That's just speculation.

😛

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Most, yeah. But I have yet to see many people that equal the top tier cosmics of 616. Even Ultimate Surfer was impressive, but his showings are so limited that it makes it hard to justify high herald.

Otherwise, I can't think of many that are much > or < than their 616 counterparts. ( < ): Juggernaut, Rogue. ( > ): Colossus

Theres an Ultimate Surfer Respect Thread?

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Wow...you're right.

Also, DS is too controversial and eclectic a character. I say we leave him off the list like he is now.

Wasn't the reason he was left off because he's 'above' the list, rather than because he's controversial?

Wolverine's controversial. Superman's controversial. The Hulk is - obviously - controversial. I don't see them missing. 😬.

The vote so far is definitely in favor of placing him in Subskyfather/Transcendent/Whatever.

😬.

Oh, and Ultimate Thor is high meta-ish. Ultimate Hulk is probably a (small?) tier below 616. Maybe same-tier. Hard to say cross universe.

Ultimate Cap deserves low meta. Ultimate Spidey....maybe low meta - he's pretty much 616 Spidey minus ALL the experience.

Ultimate Surfer definitely deserves high herald, in my opinion. 😬. He doesn't have enough showings, but the sheer power? Meh. I consider him borderline. Mid or High herald - either would be appropriate.

Oh, and do we have enough votes to move the general down? And keep henshaw where he is?

Just so we can take it 'off the table' for now?

Ult Thing, high-meta, low herald?

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Ult Thing, high-meta, low herald?

I'm glad I got the ball rolling on this. *Pulls proud face* 😂

Mid Herald at best for Ult. Surfer. I think that's the best you can say for a guy with nothing but hype.

Also, I think we decided that Henshaw stays. General was never voted on but I'll go ahead and vote him down.

Agreed with Val on the General topic.

Originally posted by Blur
Ult. Thing?? 😕

I'm glad I got the ball rolling on this. *Pulls proud face* 😂

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
The one that knocked out basically a 616 zombie version of Huc with one hit.

I doubt a zonked out Hulk was all that pissed anyway.

I always considered them weaker.

It wasn't 616. It may be just like him as far as we can tell, but you can say that with all crossovers. They are just counted as not canon because they are not known to the part of the 616 universe.

Catch my drift?

Originally posted by Blur
I always considered them weaker.

It wasn't 616. It may be just like him as far as we can tell, but you can say that with all crossovers. They are just counted as not canon because they are not known to the part of the 616 universe.

Catch my drift?

Originally posted by Validus
High Meta

I doubt a zonked out Hulk was all that pissed anyway.

Yeah but so are most crossovers, they're based on 616 Hulk. If you an count thats knocking a 616 level Hulk out you can for other crossovers. Just saying.

Here is something to think about.

I am not sure if he is weakened but he is speaking jibberish, he takes on Thing for a little, he should have been beaten no doubt.

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc185/RespectHyperion/Battles/Vs%20Thing/1.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc185/RespectHyperion/Battles/Vs%20Thing/2.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc185/RespectHyperion/Battles/Vs%20Thing/3.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc185/RespectHyperion/Battles/Vs%20Thing/4.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc185/RespectHyperion/Battles/Vs%20Thing/5.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc185/RespectHyperion/Battles/Vs%20Thing/6.jpg

Hyperion later proved he was above Thing, Thor, and every other Ult. hero. At least that was the case when I stopped paying attention.

He seems powerful enough to be Mid Herald but he's a crappy fighter.

Originally posted by Blur
Yeah but so are most crossovers, they're based on 616 Hulk. If you an count thats knocking a 616 level Hulk out you can for other crossovers. Just saying.

Originally posted by Validus
Hyperion later proved he was above Thing, Thor, and every other Ult. hero. At least that was the case when I stopped paying attention.

He seems powerful enough to be Mid Herald but he's a crappy fighter.

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Hulk only appeared in like, a couple pages though.