KMC Comic Book Tiers

Originally posted by Soljer
Why?

Sheer lack of speed/versatility. Severely limits the types of stuations he can deal with. Anyone who can stay out of his range or has some sort of control over the environs has a massive advantage, matched up against the high herald types controling the environment means nothing (Cyborg, Surfere, Warlock, Lantern) and there's no practical way of getting away from them (except Warlock). All the current high heralds have numerous abilities to draw on for situations or opponents that might come up.

Hulk by comparison is limited to entering meele, thunderclapping or throwing stuff at people. His level of stamina and overall durability are astounding but they don't give him an edge against matter manipulator who can turn the environment against him or speedsters who can dish out plenty damage before he gets a hit in.

IMO SavageHulk and such are just about the definition of LowHerald while a case for Mid is possible for WWH and Professor simply because they know how to throw their weight around.

Meh.

Originally posted by Soljer
And how many against? And how many for high herald?

3 for Low Herald (Hype07, Galan, Chaos)

1 for High Herald (Soljer)

illagrok seemed to be leaning towards Low Herald.

Digi was unsure between Low and Mid.

Originally posted by Soljer
And how many against? And how many for high herald?

I'll scream holy High hell if Hulk gets High Herald. Not Over Wonder Woman will he EVER.

I say low herald for Hulk.

But thats only because no one else voted for high meta. hehe

"people don't agree with my assesments, they must not respect the character enough, there must be no respect thread!"

Oh, shut it. I'm new, give me a break.

Oh, and for the record, there have been a few people who do agree with my assessment. So...

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Sheer lack of speed/versatility. Severely limits the types of stuations he can deal with. Anyone who can stay out of his range or has some sort of control over the environs has a massive advantage, matched up against the high herald types controling the environment means nothing (Cyborg, Surfere, Warlock, Lantern) and there's no practical way of getting away from them (except Warlock). All the current high heralds have numerous abilities to draw on for situations or opponents that might come up.

Hulk by comparison is limited to entering meele, thunderclapping or throwing stuff at people. His level of stamina and overall durability are astounding but they don't give him an edge against matter manipulator who can turn the environment against him or speedsters who can dish out plenty damage before he gets a hit in.

IMO SavageHulk and such are just about the definition of LowHerald while a case for Mid is possible for WWH and Professor simply because they know how to throw their weight around.

Meh.

Your point? The top tiers may have a couple more options, but none of them will be effective on the Hulk. Speed? So? The Hulk has unerring accuracy - he'll land the hits. Matter manipulation? Hulk's resisted it before. Energy blasts? Just serve to make the Hulk stronger. Flight? The Hulk's caught the Silver Surfer in mid-flight before. He'll jump at them, and he'll be spot-on.

The Hulk may be unidimensional, but that dimension is so great that it compensates for his shortcomings, and easily puts him on par with the guys in High Herald.

Originally posted by Validus
4 for Mid Herald (Validus, Nvr, StrengthKills, Smurph)

3 for Low Herald (Hype07, Galan, Chaos)

1 for High Herald (Soljer)

illagrok seemed to be leaning towards Low Herald.

Digi was unsure between Low and Mid.

Gracias, mr. vally.

Originally posted by Soljer
Your point? The top tiers may have a couple more options, but none of them will be effective on the Hulk. Speed? So? The Hulk has unerring accuracy - he'll land the hits. Matter manipulation? Hulk's resisted it before. Energy blasts? Just serve to make the Hulk stronger. Flight? The Hulk's caught the Silver Surfer in mid-flight before. He'll jump at them, and he'll be spot-on.

The Hulk may be unidimensional, but that dimension is so great that it compensates for his shortcomings, and easily puts him on par with the guys in High Herald.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Exactly. Superman Blue>>>> Superman. But MM managed to stand up to Asmodel for quite some time.

😐

Originally posted by Soljer
Your point? The top tiers may have a couple more options, but none of them will be effective on the Hulk. Speed? So? The Hulk has unerring accuracy - he'll land the hits. Matter manipulation? Hulk's resisted it before. Energy blasts? Just serve to make the Hulk stronger. Flight? The Hulk's caught the Silver Surfer in mid-flight before. He'll jump at them, and he'll be spot-on.

The Hulk may be unidimensional, but that dimension is so great that it compensates for his shortcomings, and easily puts him on par with the guys in High Herald.

Originally posted by Soljer
Your point? The top tiers may have a couple more options, but none of them will be effective on the Hulk. Speed? So? The Hulk has unerring accuracy - he'll land the hits. Matter manipulation? Hulk's resisted it before. Energy blasts? Just serve to make the Hulk stronger. Flight? The Hulk's caught the Silver Surfer in mid-flight before. He'll jump at them, and he'll be spot-on.

The Hulk may be unidimensional, but that dimension is so great that it compensates for his shortcomings, and easily puts him on par with the guys in High Herald.

Originally posted by Validus
Hulk for High Herald. 👆

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Hulk for trans.

Originally posted by Soljer
Your point? The top tiers may have a couple more options, but none of them will be effective on the Hulk. Speed? So? The Hulk has unerring accuracy - he'll land the hits.

He's only shown superhuman aim with thrown objects

Originally posted by Soljer
Matter manipulation? Hulk's resisted it before.

I know. Which is why I mentioned attacking from the environment. Plenty of people with matter manip take control of the battle field to give themselves an advantage.

Originally posted by Soljer
Energy blasts? Just serve to make the Hulk stronger.

That's been shown inconsistently at best. Not to mention some of them can gamma drain (and unlike Darwin they'll be able to keep draining).

Originally posted by Soljer
Flight? The Hulk's caught the Silver Surfer in mid-flight before. He'll jump at them, and he'll be spot-on.

While Surfer was heading away to reposition himself?
I believe you were the one who pointed out that a path through the air is relatively easy to dodge if you can hover to the side.

Originally posted by Soljer
The Hulk may be unidimensional, but that dimension is so great that it compensates for his shortcomings, and easily puts him on par with the guys in High Herald.

It compensates for many of his shortcoming, not all of them and leaves him with limited options against people who can keep trying new things.

I lol'd

*sarcasm* Yes, because that thread - which is only a few posts long - is such a wonderful representation of the character. *sarcasm end* Which is why I suggested making a new one. I mean, no offense to the creator, but it's pititful. Compared to the other threads which have like...30 pages...

Originally posted by Soljer
Hulk:
1 Trans
2 High
4 Mid
3 Low

Meh, Sym. You've made your vote and I've made mine. I doubt either of our opinions will change, but I find it quite sad that you can't see how powerful the Hulk truly is.

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Actually, Vally seemed to change his vote...

Right, right.

1 Trans
2 High
3 Mid
3 Low

Originally posted by JuliaChangRulz
*sarcasm* Yes, because that thread - which is only a few posts long - is such a wonderful representation of the character. *sarcasm end* Which is why I suggested making a new one. I mean, no offense to the creator, but it's pititful. Compared to the other threads which have like...30 pages...

Originally posted by Soljer
Meh, Sym. You've made your vote and I've made mine. I doubt either of our opinions will change, but I find it quite sad that you can't see how powerful the Hulk truly is.

hmm

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
hmm