Originally posted by Bad Ash231
We didn't actually see Ikaris' wound, and it could have healed.
Could it also matter what you stab an eternal with. Eternals have control over their molecules psionically right? If another being who control its molecules stabs you is it possible that it would do more than conventional damage and thus be able to harm the Eternal?
For example bullets cant hurt astral beings but another astral being could.
Originally posted by AlfheimIts a hypothetical question that makes as much sense as Batman beating the hulk by telling him that he's batman.
I know.....its a hypothetical situation......
Hulk: HULK SMASH CAPE MAN!
Batman: I'm Batman!
Hulk: Hulk not feel good. *kills over dead*
Hey, its a hypothetical situation.
Originally posted by AlfheimUm... would shifting your body into different things qualify as technique?
I think it is relevant because using technique to beat an opponent is not the same as using power.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Hoiw he beat Ikaris PIS but it was stated that Apoc was the enemy of the eternsals and that he had fought Ikaris many times, so its not that Apoc didnt have the capability to beat him it was just badly written.What were the circumstances around Exoduses depowering? Did he use a machine prior to the fight to depower Exodus?
I believe he took his power without a machine. But it's a plot because he used a weakness against Exodus! 🙄
Originally posted by AlfheimSo, it's not technique to avoid a bunch of attacks, and then attack?
In two of those examples Cap used technqiue. You might as well then say that Batman is more powerful than Superman if he use Kryponite. In Apocs battles he did not use technique he used power. Furthermore Cap beat MM simply because he was too fast for him. Thats not happened when Apoc beat Ikaris, and fought HE..I wont comment on Exodus because I dont know the cirumstances.
Terrax to low. For: 3 (Bat, llag, TP) Against: 6 (bran, Strength, Rash, Newjack, Smurph, Soljer)
Sentry to mid. For: 6 (Bat, llag, TP, CP, Pr, Newjack) Against: 11 (Bran, V, Priest, Strengthkills, Accel, Smurph, EC, 'hat, Kandy, Val, Rash)
Ravenous to low. For: 2 (llag, TP) Against: 3 (bran, Smurph, Soljer)
Darkseid to Trans. For: 7 (Bran, Soljer, Quan, Val, Priest, Strength, Goober) Against: 8 (fatnude, ass, T-pain, nvr, Spauld, Crest, llag, Newjack)
Apocalypse to high. For: 1 (Alf) Against: 6 (Bran, Smurph, Soljer, V, 'Cloak, T-Pain)
Originally posted by Alfheim
Could it also matter what you stab an eternal with. Eternals have control over their molecules psionically right? If another being who control its molecules stabs you is it possible that it would do more than conventional damage and thus be able to harm the Eternal?
Possibly...
Apocalypse even stated he could kill Ikaris (likely sub-atomic dispersal over a very wide area for an Eternal).
Yo Ash,you remember the upheaval in KMC when Brood beat CM(Danvers),when the brood are usually considered as Cannon Fodder?
Ngari Demons had their one good showing against Hulk only to get owned by Wolverine and then Apoc owned a whole tribe(Off panel).
So how are we supposed to rank the Ngari and the showing Apoc had against the demons?
Originally posted by strengthkills
Yo Ash,you remember the upheaval in KMC when Brood beat CM(Danvers),when the brood are usually considered as Cannon Fodder?
Ngari Demons had their one good showing against Hulk only to get owned by Wolverine and then Apoc owned a whole tribe(Off panel).
So how are we supposed to rank the Ngari and the showing Apoc had against the demons?
Do you have scans of Wolverine beating a N'Garai demon?
Originally posted by Bransolute
Terrax to low. For: 3 (Bat, llag, TP) Against: 6 (bran, Strength, Rash, Newjack, Smurph, Soljer)
Sentry to mid. For: 6 (Bat, llag, TP, CP, Pr, Newjack) Against: 11 (Bran, V, Priest, Strengthkills, Accel, Smurph, EC, 'hat, Kandy, Val, Rash)
Ravenous to low. For: 2 (llag, TP) Against: 3 (bran, Smurph, Soljer)
Darkseid to Trans. For: 7 (Bran, Soljer, Quan, Val, Priest, Strength, Goober) Against: 8 (fatnude, ass, T-pain, nvr, Spauld, Crest, llag, Newjack)
Apocalypse to high. For: 1 (Alf) Against: 6 (Bran, Smurph, Soljer, V, 'Cloak, T-Pain)
I'm against Apocalypse to high.
Also, those who are against Ravenous to low, do you want him on mid herald or high meta?
Terrax to low. For: 3 (Bat, llag, TP) Against: 6 (bran, Strength, Rash, Newjack, Smurph, Soljer)
Sentry to mid. For: 6 (Bat, llag, TP, CP, Pr, Newjack) Against: 11 (Bran, V, Priest, Strengthkills, Accel, Smurph, EC, 'hat, Kandy, Val, Rash)
Ravenous to low. For: 2 (llag, TP) Against: 3 (bran, Smurph, Soljer)
Darkseid to Trans. For: 7 (Bran, Soljer, Quan, Val, Priest, Strength, Goober) Against: 8 (fatnude, ass, T-pain, nvr, Spauld, Crest, llag, Newjack)
Apocalypse to high. For: 1 (Alf) Against: 8 (Bran, Smurph, Soljer, V, 'Cloak, T-Pain, llag, Ass)
Originally posted by Alfheim
Meh well anyway im still going for sub-skyfather sure hes only had one fight with HE but he was doing pretty well. Even if you go by his fight with Ikaris and Exodus (not really a fight) that would make him high-herald at least...so then having Apoc being to hold his own against HE is not that much of a stretch, its just that he hasnt foguht that many people that powerful.
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