KMC Comic Book Tiers

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Originally posted by B.A
Yeah high herald is about right.

Why wasn't this done sooner???

I believe I tried... got nothing.

"Quasar moans.."

I lol'd.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I believe I tried... got nothing.

That's cause you're not special like me 😛 .

Honestly start up the voting.

Originally posted by B.A
Honestly start up the voting.

Well so far...

darthgoober
llagrok
Priest
Erik-Lensherr
starlock
Gecko4lif
MightyEInherjar
B.A.

...are all for bumping him up, and no one's against it now that you changed your vote. I think it's safe to say that he'll be moved soon.

I am not allowed to be put in the list but hopefully the amount of time till you can will be changed.

Originally posted by B.A
The first one in Valiant. The rest suck.

Naaaa...Turok in Western Publishing & Acclaim Comics were actually better.

The first Turok was good, but Valiant will always be my favorite.

Where was the grandson Turok from?

Bumping the list using the last time it was updated by Val: (http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=447826&pagenumber=236

So bump*:

Sub-Skyfather (Transcendent)

Amazo, Appolyon, The Asgardian Destroyer, Black Racer, Blackheart, Blaze, Circe, Count Abyss, Darkseid, Death Urge, Despero, The Doctor, Doomsday (H/P), Dr. Fate, Dr. Manhattan, Dr. Strange (classic), Eclipso, Elders of the Universe (minus Ego), Fernus, Gog, Gray Man, High Evolutionary, Ion (current), Jenny Quantum, The Keeper, King Thor, Magus (original), Mangog, Mongul I (Pre Crisis), Nightmare, Onimar Synn, Onslaught, Queen of Fables, Resurrection Man 1 Million, Sentinel (Alan Scott), Silver Age Kryptonians/Daxamites, Solomon Grundy (Peak), Solusandra, Stayne, Strange Visitor, Sun Eater, Superboy Prime, Superman 1 Million, Takion, Talisman, Thanos, Tyrant (powered down), Validus

Herald

High
Adam Warlock, Baron Zemo (w/ Moonstones), Cyborg Superman, Doomsday (Gog Wars), The Eradicator (Fortress Mode), Genis-Vell, Green Lantern (Hal, Kyle, Alan), Infinity-Man, Majestic, Moonstone (w/ both stones), Qztr, The Sentry, The Silver Surfer, Sinestro, Spartan 3.0, Stardust, Superman (including B/R and AS), Thor, The Void

Middle
Alexander Nero, Beta Ray Bill, Binary, Black Adam, Black Bolt, Cable (Full Power), Captain Atom, Cpt. Comet, Captain Marvel (DC), Count Nefaria, Damien Hellstrom, Evinlea, The Fallen One, Firelord, Firestorm, The Flash III (Wally West), The Flash IV (Bart Allen), The General (Shaggy Man), General Zod, Gladiator, Green Lantern (Guy, John, Katma, Kilowog), Hyperion, Ikaris, Imperiex Probes, Kid Omega, Lobo, Loki, Magus (Post-IG), Martian Manhunter, Maxima, Metamorpho, Mon-El, Morg, Nate Grey, Orion, Quasar, Rachel Summers (Phoenix II), Red Shift, Sersi, Shaman, Skreet, Supergirl, Supreme, Swamp Thing, Terrax the Tamer, Void, Waverider, Wildfire, Witchfire (Demon Form), Wonder Woman

Low
Absorbing Man, Air Walker, Animal Man, Apocalypse, Apollo, Argent, The Atom, Aztek, Bizarro Superman, Breach, Cassandra Nova, Cir-El, Damage, Darkness, Darwin, Death's Head 3.0, Death Metal, Doomsday (DOS), Dr. Doom, Dr. Invincible, Dr. Light, Dr. Polaris, Drax The Destroyer, Enchantress, Engineer, Etrigan, Exodus, Fin Fang Foom, The Flash II (Barry Allen), Gammid, Gamora (w/Godslayer), Gilgamesh, Gold Key Solar, Gorilla Grodd, Graviton, Green Lantern (Soranik Natu), Guardian I (James Hudson), He-Man, Hector Hammond, Hulk, Iceman, Isis, Jade, Jack Hawksmoor (in city), Jack of Hearts, Jericho, Juggernaut (Classic), Kalibak, Karate Kid, Lightray, Living Monolith, Lunatik, Madison Jeffries (BOX IV), Magneto, Major Force, Makkari, Man-Beast, Manchester Black, Marrina (Leviathan), Mar-Vell, Matrix Supergirl, Meggan, Mongul, Monica Rambeau (Pulsar), Mr. M, Nova (Frankie Raye), Nova Richard Rider (current), Plastic Man, Prime, Professor X, Raven, The Ray, Red Tornado, Ronan the Accuser, Saturn Girl, Selene (External), Shadow King, Snowbird, Starhawk, Super Skrull, Superboy, Tempest, Ultra Boy, Ultra-Humanite, Ultron, Union, Vulcan, Wendigo, Winter, Witchfire (Normal), Zauriel

Metahuman (Mid-tier "Iron Man" level)

High
Abomination, Adam Strange, Aquaman, Ares (Marvel), Atlas, Aurora, Batman 1 Million, Battalion (Jackson King), Blastaar, Blob, BOX I (Roger Bochs), Captain Britain, Captain Marvel Jr, Colossus, Crystal, Death's Head II, Donna Troy, Emma Frost, Ghost Rider II, Grim Reaper, Guardian II (Heather Hudson), Havok, Hellstrike, Hercules (Mortal), Holocaust, The Human Torch, Invisible Woman, Iron-Man, Jean Grey (sans Phoenix), Jenny Sparks, Juggernaut (Depowered), Kang, Living Laser, Machine Man, Manbot, Mandarin, Mary Marvel, Maul, Mercer Drake, Metallo, Mimic (Exiles), Miss Martian, Mr. Fantastic, Mr. Sinister, Namor the Sub-Mariner, Nico Minoru, Nightshade, Nimrod, Northstar, Ocean Master, Osiris, Pitt, Polaris, Power Girl, Psylocke, Radioactive Man, Sand, Sasquatch, Shassa, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Supernova, Temugin, The Thing, Thunderstrike, The Tick, Ulik, Ultimo, Vision, War Machine, Windshear, Wonder Man, Zzaxx

Middle
Aegis, Atom Smasher, Attuma, Balder, Beast Boy, Bishop, Blink, Blue Beetle (Jamie Reyes), Blue Devil, Bombshell, Booster Gold, Carnage, Cloak, Corrin, Cyborg, Cyclops, Death's Head, Death Wreck, Dust, Electro, Elijah Snow, Farenheit, Flint, Fuji, Ghost Rider (Johnny Blaze), Ghost Rider(Dan Ketch), Grace Choi, Hawkgirl, Hawkman, Hellion, The Flash I (Jay Garrick), Karolina Dean, Kymaera/Namorita, Lightning Lad, Matua, M.O.D.O.K., Molly Hayes, Moonstone, Morlun, Ms. Marvel, Nico Minoru, Nova Richard Rider (classic), Ogun, Quicksilver (classic), Ragman, Rogue, Rom, Shadowcat, Shift, Steel, Terra, Thunder, Tiger Shark, Toxin, Vance Astro, Vengeance, Venom, Victor Mancha, Wonder Girl

Low
3-D Man, Ambrose Chase, Angel, Arachne, Arana, Azrael, Beast, Black Canary, Black Tarantula, Blade, Blue Beetle (Dan Garrett), Bruenor Battlehammer, Century, Charcoal, Charlie 27, Constrictor, Creeper, Cyber, Dagger, Deathlok, Deathstroke the Terminator, Doc Ock, Drizzt Do'Urden, Elixer, Falcon, Firehawk, Gambit, Green Goblin, Hobgoblin, Iron Fist, Jakita Wagner, Karnak, Kid Devil, Killer Croc, Klaw, Lady Deathstrike, Longshot, Luke Cage, Man-Bat, Marrina (Normal), Mercury, Midnighter, Mister Hyde, Multiple Man, Mysterio, Mystique, Nightcrawler, Nuke, Omega Red, Orka Humbug, Prometheus, Protocide, Puck, Puma, Rage, Sabretooth, Shang Chi, Silver Samurai, Speedball, Speedfreek, Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2099, Spider-Woman, Swift, Thunder Cats, Tombstone, Triathalon, Vance Astro, Vanguard, Vermin, Vulture, Warlock (Technarchy/Phalanx), Warpath, Wildchild, Wizard, Wolverine, Wulfgar

Street Level

High
Bane, Batgirl, Batman, Black Cat, Black Panther, Blacklash, Bronze Tiger, Bullseye, Captain America, The Cat, Constantine Drakon, Daredevil, Elektra, Green Arrow, Hawkeye, Hush, Kingpin, Lady Shiva, Ravager, Red Skull, Richard Dragon, Taskmaster, Union Jack, X-23, Nightwing, Red Hood

Middle
Arsenal/Red Arrow, Baron Zemo, Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), Crossbones, Deadshot, Echo, Grifter, Joker, Mach IV, Misty Knight, Moon Knight, Nick Fury, Nomad, Peacemaker, Punisher, Ra's Al Ghul, Rose Tattoo, Turok, Wildcat, Robin

Low
Alfred, Batroc, Black Widow, Catwoman, Christine Trelane, Colleen Wing, Night Thrasher, Obregon Kaine, Penguin, The Question, Riddler, Talia, White Tiger
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Current Voting tallies and Proposals:

-Ravenous to low. For: 5 (llag, TP, Digi, Val, Oual) Against: 5 (bran, Smurph, Soljer, Rash, boo)

-Kurse to high herald. For: 3 (Mighty, ill, lord) Against: 1 (Oual)

-Sentry to Mid herald. For: 9 (Trick, Soljer, Red, Oual, ill, lordboo, dube, Pr1983, Erik) Against: 10 (Bran, Val, Nvr, Strength, Mano, Battle, Priest, V, Skeets, Smurf)

-Starman to Low herald. For: 2 (Skeets, Val) Against: 0

-Dr. light (Kimiyo) to Low Herald. For: 4 (Pr1983, Bran, Ouallada, Val) Against: 1 (llagrok)

-Wonder Woman to low herald. For: 8 (Skeets, Bran, Val, Strength, Soljer, Priest, Stacks, llag) Against: 5 (Spauld, Nvr, Trick, Pr1983, Erik)

-Martian Manhunter to low Herald. For: 6 (Skeets, Bran, Spauld, Soljer, Val, Ass) Against: 4 (Strength, Trick, llag, Erik)

-Flash I (Jay Garrick) to Low Herald. For: 5 (Val, Pr1983, Soljer, Ouallada, Erik) Against: 0

-Captain America to low meta. For: 2 (Alfheim, Nvr) Against: 8 (llag, Soljer, BA, Val, Pr1983, Jason, Ouallada, Erik)

-Starlord to high street For: 1 (Illagrok) Against: 0

-Quasar I to High Herald For: 7 (Goober, Ill, Priest, Erik, Starlock, ,Gecko, MightyEInherjar) Against: 0

Proposals:

* Remove Depowered Juggernaut from list: For: 1 (Illagrok) Against: 0

* SBP take him of the list because he's too powerful - General Consensus agrees to wait.

* Mauvais was being discussed, some said he should stay at low herald others said he should be higher but gave no indication as to what category he should be placed in.

* Oh and I propose a cap as to how many characters can be sorted at a time because this is becoming ridiculous. 😬 Votes are being displaced more characters are being suggested while older characters and proposals lie in limbo. 😐

Originally posted by B.A
The first Turok was good, but Valiant will always be my favorite.

Where was the grandson Turok from?

Joshua Fireseed? He has his own novels, not sure what the company was but he was also Acclaim Comics same with Tal'Set

I think so.

Turok of old dies in it.

Anyway why not just leave him as Superboy Prime from Sinestro Corps. I mean Mxy said his power up is temporary.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
* Oh and I propose a cap as to how many characters can be sorted at a time because this is becoming ridiculous. 😬 Votes are being displaced more characters are being suggested while older characters and proposals lie in limbo. 😐
One of the characters has 7 for 0 against...

Shouldn't that motion be passed and remove him from the "being voted on" list?

Originally posted by Creshosk
One of the characters has 7 for 0 against...

Shouldn't that motion be passed and remove him from the "being voted on" list?

True, but even I don't have that kind of power 😮 😛

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
* Oh and I propose a cap as to how many characters can be sorted at a time because this is becoming ridiculous. 😬 Votes are being displaced more characters are being suggested while older characters and proposals lie in limbo. 😐

Good idea, number 3. 👆

We'll make the cap 5 characters after we work our way through the current list. For now nobody else gets brought up.

And I'll move Quasar.

Originally posted by Val
Good idea, number 3. 👆

We'll make the cap 5 characters after we work our way through the current list. For now nobody else gets brought up.

And I'll move Quasar.

What about Jay Garrick? He's five to zero, can he not be moved into low herald as well?

Oh, and we can remove the 'jokes' - Martian Manhunter and Wonder Woman.

Those three changes should clean it up a little bit.

Originally posted by Soljer
What about Jay Garrick? He's five to zero, can he not be moved into low herald as well?

Oh, and we can remove the 'jokes' - Martian Manhunter and Wonder Woman.

Those three changes should clean it up a little bit.


All good ideas, number 4.

Originally posted by B.A
I think so.

Turok of old dies in it.

Well there's one story about Joshua Fireseed dying and his brother and sister Danielle & Joseph becoming the new Turoks

Further, Captain America seems clearly defeated (2-8) and both the Sentry (9-10) and Ravenous (5-5) seem far too contested to make said moves.

Removing the jokes, moving Quasar and Garrick, and taking off the Cap, Sentry and Ravenous proposals clean it up to the following:

-Kurse to high herald. For: 3 (Mighty, ill, lord) Against: 1 (Oual)

-Starman to Low herald. For: 2 (Skeets, Val) Against: 0

-Dr. light (Kimiyo) to Low Herald. For: 4 (Pr1983, Bran, Ouallada, Val) Against: 1 (llagrok)

-Starlord to high street For: 1 (Illagrok) Against: 0

I knew if I pissed around long enough someone would do my work for me.

And the limit is 4 at a time.

Sub-Skyfather (Transcendent)

Amazo, Appolyon, The Asgardian Destroyer, Black Racer, Blackheart, Blaze, Circe, Count Abyss, Darkseid, Death Urge, Despero, The Doctor, Doomsday (H/P), Dr. Fate, Dr. Manhattan, Dr. Strange (classic), Eclipso, Elders of the Universe (minus Ego), Fernus, Gog, Gray Man, High Evolutionary, Ion (current), Jenny Quantum, The Keeper, King Thor, Magus (original), Mangog, Mongul I (Pre Crisis), Nightmare, Onimar Synn, Onslaught, Queen of Fables, Resurrection Man 1 Million, Sentinel (Alan Scott), Silver Age Kryptonians/Daxamites, Solomon Grundy (Peak), Solusandra, Stayne, Strange Visitor, Sun Eater, Superboy Prime, Superman 1 Million, Takion, Talisman, Thanos, Tyrant (powered down), Validus

Herald

High
Adam Warlock, Baron Zemo (w/ Moonstones), Cyborg Superman, Doomsday (Gog Wars), The Eradicator (Fortress Mode), Genis-Vell, Green Lantern (Hal, Kyle, Alan), Infinity-Man, Majestic, Moonstone (w/ both stones), Quasar, Qztr, The Sentry, The Silver Surfer, Sinestro, Spartan 3.0, Stardust, Superman (including B/R and AS), Thor, The Void

Middle
Alexander Nero, Beta Ray Bill, Binary, Black Adam, Black Bolt, Cable (Full Power), Captain Atom, Cpt. Comet, Captain Marvel (DC), Count Nefaria, Damien Hellstrom, Evinlea, The Fallen One, Firelord, Firestorm, The Flash III (Wally West), The Flash IV (Bart Allen), The General (Shaggy Man), General Zod, Gladiator, Green Lantern (Guy, John, Katma, Kilowog), Hyperion, Ikaris, Imperiex Probes, Kid Omega, Lobo, Loki, Magus (Post-IG), Martian Manhunter, Maxima, Metamorpho, Mon-El, Morg, Nate Grey, Orion, Rachel Summers (Phoenix II), Red Shift, Sersi, Shaman, Skreet, Supergirl, Supreme, Swamp Thing, Terrax the Tamer, Void, Waverider, Wildfire, Witchfire (Demon Form), Wonder Woman

Low
Absorbing Man, Air Walker, Animal Man, Apocalypse, Apollo, Argent, The Atom, Aztek, Bizarro Superman, Breach, Cassandra Nova, Cir-El, Damage, Darkness, Darwin, Death's Head 3.0, Death Metal, Doomsday (DOS), Dr. Doom, Dr. Invincible, Dr. Light, Dr. Polaris, Drax The Destroyer, Enchantress, Engineer, Etrigan, Exodus, Fin Fang Foom, The Flash I (Jay Garrick), The Flash II (Barry Allen), Gammid, Gamora (w/Godslayer), Gilgamesh, Gold Key Solar, Gorilla Grodd, Graviton, Green Lantern (Soranik Natu), Guardian I (James Hudson), He-Man, Hector Hammond, Hulk, Iceman, Isis, Jade, Jack Hawksmoor (in city), Jack of Hearts, Jericho, Juggernaut (Classic), Kalibak, Karate Kid, Lightray, Living Monolith, Lunatik, Madison Jeffries (BOX IV), Magneto, Major Force, Makkari, Man-Beast, Manchester Black, Marrina (Leviathan), Mar-Vell, Matrix Supergirl, Meggan, Mongul, Monica Rambeau (Pulsar), Mr. M, Nova (Frankie Raye), Nova Richard Rider (current), Plastic Man, Prime, Professor X, Raven, The Ray, Red Tornado, Ronan the Accuser, Saturn Girl, Selene (External), Shadow King, Snowbird, Starhawk, Super Skrull, Superboy, Tempest, Ultra Boy, Ultra-Humanite, Ultron, Union, Vulcan, Wendigo, Winter, Witchfire (Normal), Zauriel

Metahuman (Mid-tier "Iron Man" level)

High
Abomination, Adam Strange, Aquaman, Ares (Marvel), Atlas, Aurora, Batman 1 Million, Battalion (Jackson King), Blastaar, Blob, BOX I (Roger Bochs), Captain Britain, Captain Marvel Jr, Colossus, Crystal, Death's Head II, Donna Troy, Emma Frost, Ghost Rider II, Grim Reaper, Guardian II (Heather Hudson), Havok, Hellstrike, Hercules (Mortal), Holocaust, The Human Torch, Invisible Woman, Iron-Man, Jean Grey (sans Phoenix), Jenny Sparks, Juggernaut (Depowered), Kang, Living Laser, Machine Man, Manbot, Mandarin, Mary Marvel, Maul, Mercer Drake, Metallo, Mimic (Exiles), Miss Martian, Mr. Fantastic, Mr. Sinister, Namor the Sub-Mariner, Nico Minoru, Nightshade, Nimrod, Northstar, Ocean Master, Osiris, Pitt, Polaris, Power Girl, Psylocke, Radioactive Man, Sand, Sasquatch, Shassa, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Supernova, Temugin, The Thing, Thunderstrike, The Tick, Ulik, Ultimo, Vision, War Machine, Windshear, Wonder Man, Zzaxx

Middle
Aegis, Atom Smasher, Attuma, Balder, Beast Boy, Bishop, Blink, Blue Beetle (Jamie Reyes), Blue Devil, Bombshell, Booster Gold, Carnage, Cloak, Corrin, Cyborg, Cyclops, Death's Head, Death Wreck, Dust, Electro, Elijah Snow, Farenheit, Flint, Fuji, Ghost Rider (Johnny Blaze), Ghost Rider(Dan Ketch), Grace Choi, Hawkgirl, Hawkman, Hellion, Karolina Dean, Kymaera/Namorita, Lightning Lad, Matua, M.O.D.O.K., Molly Hayes, Moonstone, Morlun, Ms. Marvel, Nico Minoru, Nova Richard Rider (classic), Ogun, Quicksilver (classic), Ragman, Rogue, Rom, Shadowcat, Shift, Steel, Terra, Thunder, Tiger Shark, Toxin, Vance Astro, Vengeance, Venom, Victor Mancha, Wonder Girl

Low
3-D Man, Ambrose Chase, Angel, Arachne, Arana, Azrael, Beast, Black Canary, Black Tarantula, Blade, Blue Beetle (Dan Garrett), Bruenor Battlehammer, Century, Charcoal, Charlie 27, Constrictor, Creeper, Cyber, Dagger, Deathlok, Deathstroke the Terminator, Doc Ock, Drizzt Do'Urden, Elixer, Falcon, Firehawk, Gambit, Green Goblin, Hobgoblin, Iron Fist, Jakita Wagner, Karnak, Kid Devil, Killer Croc, Klaw, Lady Deathstrike, Longshot, Luke Cage, Man-Bat, Marrina (Normal), Mercury, Midnighter, Mister Hyde, Multiple Man, Mysterio, Mystique, Nightcrawler, Nuke, Omega Red, Orka Humbug, Prometheus, Protocide, Puck, Puma, Rage, Sabretooth, Shang Chi, Silver Samurai, Speedball, Speedfreek, Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2099, Spider-Woman, Swift, Thunder Cats, Tombstone, Triathalon, Vance Astro, Vanguard, Vermin, Vulture, Warlock (Technarchy/Phalanx), Warpath, Wildchild, Wizard, Wolverine, Wulfgar

Street Level

High
Bane, Batgirl, Batman, Black Cat, Black Panther, Blacklash, Bronze Tiger, Bullseye, Captain America, The Cat, Constantine Drakon, Daredevil, Elektra, Green Arrow, Hawkeye, Hush, Kingpin, Lady Shiva, Ravager, Red Skull, Richard Dragon, Taskmaster, Union Jack, X-23, Nightwing, Red Hood

Middle
Arsenal/Red Arrow, Baron Zemo, Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), Crossbones, Deadshot, Echo, Grifter, Joker, Mach IV, Misty Knight, Moon Knight, Nick Fury, Nomad, Peacemaker, Punisher, Ra's Al Ghul, Rose Tattoo, Turok, Wildcat, Robin

Low
Alfred, Batroc, Black Widow, Catwoman, Christine Trelane, Colleen Wing, Night Thrasher, Obregon Kaine, Penguin, The Question, Riddler, Talia, White Tiger
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-Kurse to high herald. For: 3 (Mighty, ill, lord) Against: 1 (Oual)

-Starman to Low herald. For: 2 (Skeets, Val) Against: 0

-Dr. light (Kimiyo) to Low Herald. For: 4 (Pr1983, Bran, Ouallada, Val) Against: 1 (llagrok)

-Starlord to high street For: 1 (Illagrok) Against: 0