KMC Comic Book Tiers

Hm. Maybe we should leave him out.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
If Cap is KK lite....

Hasn't Batman done pretty well against KK, WITHOUT using his gear? #justsaying

Originally posted by Phil
Hm. Maybe we should leave him out.

*And just so you guys know, I spoke with Bada and Pr about the featureless environment. We all agreed that it should essentially be a large, flat plain that stretches from horizon to horizon, with no mountains, forests, cliffs, valleys, rivers, lakes, etc. The only 'feature' of note would be the ground beneath the characters' feet. That said, it is always assumed that a character's base powers are active and working in versus threads, therefore the 'featureless' landscape would essentially morph to accommodate a character's powers.

So in Ivy's case, she *would* be able to summon plantlife(and the like) from the ground beneath her in a forum battle.

**I will be editing the CBvF Rules in a bit to reflect the above. This discussion has made me realize that the default setting does need to be defined better in the rules. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
*Moved Cap to LM.

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Captain America is very disappointed in you, Galan.

Originally posted by darthgoober
And yet KK it high meta despite only being a one dimensional human martial artist with less versatility than Nightwing 😛

karate kid has fought evenly with pre crisis superboy, defeated pre crisis ultraboy in the past

dodged nuclear power blast on a random sunday, destroyed a meteor on a random friday. dodged validus mental lightning with ease

Defeats Mon'el in a Sparring match using Krishnu Gauntlets
Destroyed around 70'000-80'000 Kilotons of Snow and Ice
Kicks a Daxmite so hard he thinks he's dreaming
Dodges Mon'el's heat vision
Dodges Speed-Force Lightning

just to name a few, and most of the feats are post crisis here too, lol at you thinking cap compares to him. you think high meta for KK is overrated when the fact is we are seriously lowballing him by putting him on that tier. there's not a street leveler in marvel and dc that can defeat KK at his best. not even everyone's beloved iron fist

After people giving me sh_t for voting Dredd for low meta they vote frigging Rogers ahah

Phuck this sh_t:

Bane for low-meta
Hawkeye for low-meta
Wondeman for low-herald.

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Into more regular business:

-Weather Wizard for high meta
-White Martians for mid herald
-Red Hulk for low herald

yep, that sounds about right....

anyway, i can get behind leaving mogo out maybe, though trans might be a good place for him given his more standard operating level. /shrug

noticed black knight was surprisingly left off. classic, with ebony blade? hs or lm? i guess a case could even be made for mid meta if we give him his flying horse as standard gear...

I wouldn't mind Mogo for trans personally.

I'd put classic Black Knight with Ebony Blade in low-meta probably. The exotic energy cutting feats an other tricks are pretty dangerous for people in high tiers. I'm assuming the lance is part of standard equipment? (glad to see I'm not the only one who noticed he wasn't there)

Arkon for High Meta

arkon. lol i'd say mm for that clown of a character, personally, but i can see why you say hm.

That clown clowned Immortal Leocules.

lol what are you talking about? if you're talking about the avengers 358 where herc literally tanked having one of arkon's lightning bolts stabbed into his stomach and detonated (to arkon's astonishment) before herc beat the holy hell out of arkon, then yeah, i agree, it was a clowning all right. 👆

Wasn't Arkon depleted in any way before that encounter?

Anyway, Arkon definitely fluctuates a lot (imo at least). Marvel never really knew what to do with him.

*Made the following additions to the list:

Weather Wizard- HM.
Mogo- Trans.
White Martians- MH
Static- HM
Red Hulk [no energy absorbtion]- LH

**Looks like we still need to place:

-Poison Ivy
-Wiccan
-Black Knight
-Arkon

Mmm I'm thinking maybe Black Knight and Hawkeye for high street, unless you can convince me otherwise. Black Knight is good with his blade but part from that seem medicore. Don't think his flying steed is standard equipment.

Ragman for high-meta not too sure about that so maybe mid-meta.

I vote Wiccan to low herald, he's definitively in that level of potential and has showed enough versatility.

Where would you guys place Skeletor?

Dammit keep getting comic book questions thread mixed up with this thread. facepalm

Originally posted by Bentley
I vote Wiccan to low herald, he's definitively in that level of potential and has showed enough versatility.

Where would you guys place Skeletor?

personally low herald for skeletor. he does have some better showings, but i think based on most of what i've seen of him lh feels right.

just noticed conan was placed in mid meta instead of mid street. galan drinking and tiering again. lol

also: optimis prime? megatron? hm?

yoda?? lh

snake eyes and storm shadow? hs?

also, klaw should move to mm at least, imo.

Originally posted by leonidas
just noticed conan was placed in mid meta instead of mid street. galan drinking and tiering again. lol

**Anyway, fixed Conan and made the following additions to the list:

Poison Ivy- MM (no one really chimed in, so I just put her in that slot. Can always change if need be.)
Wiccan- LH
Black Knight (classic /w/ Ebony Blade)- LH
Arkon- MM
Skeletor- LH

Originally posted by leonidas
just noticed conan was placed in mid meta instead of mid street. galan drinking and tiering again. lol

also: optimis prime? megatron? hm?

yoda?? lh

snake eyes and storm shadow? hs?

also, klaw should move to mm at least, imo.

k. what about batman beyond? he's been pretty popular in mainstream... is he still lm?

brimstone? (was be mentioned already??) hh? higher?

silencer? hs? lm?

what about the young justice team? superboy? cassie? jinny hex? impulse?

uncle sam? hm?

vixen? hm?

amanda waller? lol ms?

psimon? hm?

omen? hm? lh?

katana? lm? hs?

cap boomerang? mm? (the super speed one) hm??