Originally posted by chillmeistergen
I think fishing alone is morally wrong. Dragging a living thing out of its environment using a hook from its mouth, what's humane about that?
You'd think so, but when you consider that most fish have adapted to having crustaceans and gastropods as neighbors and prey and when you see some of the things those animals do with their barbs, stingers, and pinchers, most fish can deal with a hook in the mouth. Why else do some intelligent fish bite onto the same barbed hook multiple times when your fishing? Some of these things eat urchins.
As for the main question, it's a real problem. Severing the head is problematic in that it's really hard to clean a fish after that's gone. We usually chill the fish while it's still alive, something that most fish are used to. Once the fish is asleep, you can then pretty much do anything you want without hurting it.
Another thing you must consider is that salmon feel virtually nothing but anger and horniness when they run and thus probably won't feel pain. That's why they bite bare hooks that bonk them in the face rather than avoid them. I mean look at what bears do to them!!!
Re: How morally wrong is it to fillet a fish alive?
Originally posted by FeceMan
I was thinking about this today. A couple years ago, my youth group and I were staying at a cottage for the weekend, and we went fishing for dinner. Upon returning, we were to prepare the fish--and I was appalled that they began filleting the fish alive.One of the adults even remarked, "When I do this with bigger fish like salmon, they're usually still alive even after I've done the other side."
I, in my infinite kindness, began to show mercy to the fish by stabbing them in their brains.
So, I'm just wondering--how wrong is it to fillet a fish while it lives? To me, it's pretty damn morally wrong.
Not morally wrong at all....why would it? I would find morally wrong to starve yourself when there is plenty of food around.
Geez...if everything we do is to be regarded as morally wrong when we eat...we might as well not live at all. What's the point of surviving then?
Originally posted by FeceMan
Oops.Well, my heart was in the right place...why does it cause more pain?
if you know exactly where it's brain is and your aim is true its perhaps the most humane way to kill it. however their brains are quite small, so if its a hit-or-miss thing it could be very brutal.
Originally posted by FeceMan
Oops.Well, my heart was in the right place...why does it cause more pain?
No blood is lost through an impact theres no millisecond of fear as the skin is broken.Its much less painful than being filleted alive but being smacked on the head is much more humane for the fish.
dude, you realise that by just having the thing out of water and on the slab its afraid, right? not like the fish is thinking "oh, he's picking me up! maybe he's going to pet me. oh look, he just layed me out on this board....maybe he's going to give me a massage? if it cant breath im sure its not pleased