Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Not atall...you have the life, but your missing on Living!
I have lots of love. When I was a Christian, there was this feeling that I got when I went to church. I guess you call it love. I left the church because of the evil people who took advantage of the Innocent in the church. My fundamental Christian beliefs, in the long run, did more harm then good. I spent 20 years in the wilderness, and then I found that love again. Now as a Buddhist I have that feeling all the time, without the evil people around me. I don't know what it's like to be a Catholic, but if God loves Christians, then "he" also loves Buddhists.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I have lots of love. When I was a Christian, there was this feeling that I got when I went to church. I guess you call it love. I left the church because of the evil people who took advantage of the Innocent in the church. My fundamental Christian beliefs, in the long run, did more harm then good. I spent 20 years in the wilderness, and then I found that love again. Now as a Buddhist I have that feeling all the time, without the evil people around me. I don't know what it's like to be a Catholic, but if God loves Christians, then "he" also loves Buddhists.
I have no idea where that came from 😛
All I have to say...is Ego Te Absolvo.
Originally posted by Da Pittman
Why did he have to become "man" 😖 😐
Because it was man who sinned and was in need of redemption. So the Son of God became flesh so that He could take upon Himself the wages of humanity's sin. The wages of sin is death (spiritual then physical). Once that sin has been expiated God no longer will hold humanity responsible for it. But, there is one condition: in order for a person's sin to be remitted by God that person must exercise faith in Jesus Christ (the sacrificial payment for his/her sin). Apart from Christ each person must suffer eternal payment for his/her own sin.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Because it was man who sinned and was in need of redemption. So the Son of God became flesh so that He could take upon Himself the wages of humanity's sin. The wages of sin is death (spiritual then physical). Once that sin has been expiated God no longer will hold humanity responsible for it. But, there is one condition: in order for a person's sin to be remitted by God that person must exercise faith in Jesus Christ (the sacrificial payment for his/her sin). Apart from Christ each person must suffer eternal payment for his/her own sin.
So, why in his experiment did he not induldge in any of the really good sins, like having sex and children out of wedlock or becoming rich or marrying a man?
Originally posted by Devil King
So, why in his experiment did he not induldge in any of the really good sins, like having sex and children out of wedlock or becoming rich or marrying a man?
Because then He would have jeapordized His own plan, and humanity would be lost forever. Jesus was the only one qualified to die for humanity's sin because He is not a sinner. If He had sinned then all would be lost.
Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gavpitt_birthday
Guess who's a year older?
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveSmall problem with that, Jesus was a god not a man, even in flesh he was still a god. He did not have the flaws of man that were built into him by God, last time I checked man couldn't do miracles and rise from the dead. Last time I check man didn't have the wisdom of gods so how is Jesus having flesh supposed to make him a man? Another problem is one of the biggest questions in life is what is our purpose, Jesus already knew what his purpose was and that is to redeem men from their sins so he already knew his goal in life so how does this make him a man?
Because it was man who sinned and was in need of redemption. So the Son of God became flesh so that He could take upon Himself the wages of humanity's sin. The wages of sin is death (spiritual then physical). Once that sin has been expiated God no longer will hold humanity responsible for it. But, there is one condition: in order for a person's sin to be remitted by God that person must exercise faith in Jesus Christ (the sacrificial payment for his/her sin). Apart from Christ each person must suffer eternal payment for his/her own sin.
So if the story of the Trinity is true God says that man has sin and will suffer all time pain and suffering but then a part of God 1/3 of him gave himself flesh so that he can come down and “die” (how can a god die) on the cross to forgive man of the sins that God (the other 2/3) convicted man of. Sounds like a case of the left and not knowing what the right hand is doing.
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Originally posted by Devil King
So, why in his experiment did he not induldge in any of the really good sins, like having sex and children out of wedlock or becoming rich or marrying a man?
Jesus' mission wasn't to do any of those things. It was to preach the word of God and then die so he could take everyone's place. Now, I don't believe all the DaVinci Code nonsense because it is conjecture at best and shoddy research at its worst, but it would not be a sin for Jesus to have married and had children. But that was not part of the mission. In those days, a man didn't take on an "equal" partner when he married. It was more like adopting a kid. The wife would be younger, uneducated, and expected to serve him.
Jesus went out into the world to preach, associating with people the rest of the world found repulsive. That wouldn't have been very conducive to protecting and caring for a wife and children. Also, he knew that soon after he began his ministry, he would be killed. That also isn't very good for a wife and children since anyone crucified by the Romans was considered a dangerous, villainous person. Another point is that while Jesus didn't exactly conform to what society said was acceptable, he would not have been able to preach to women very easily if he was married. He went into women's houses and had meals with them and a lot of women acted as financial providers to Jesus and his disciples.
The things you mention aren't necessary parts of the human experience. You can be a human and experience all the pain and temptation and suffering that go along with it without being gay, having illegitimate children (which just would have made innocent kids suffer and not Jesus, so I have to kind of go "duh" when you ask why he didn't have bastards), or becoming rich...which really isn't a sin.
I'm not the one who said he came to earth to be flesh and die for our sins.
I think the concept of his divinity is silly.
And if it is not a sin to be rich, then why is it easier for a rich man to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for him to get into heaven?
I would still like to know why a man was divine and became a human being if he wasn't going to be a human being. Again, it illustrates that god is sadistic