Can you handle the Truth?

Started by Symmetric Chaos432 pages
Originally posted by chickenlover98
im not mocking him for being christian persay, but the way he advocates it. when i say "christians in general" im speaking about the united states.

And of course when they talk about "atheists" they mean the ones that go out and mudered people. Problem solved.

When it comes right down to it you're a bigot and doing a very poor job of rationalizing it.

Originally posted by chickenlover98
and to my knowledge i dont know of any "atheist loving" countries. in fact usually they are shunned or beheaded.

I didn't say there were any atheist loving countries.

Originally posted by chickenlover98
no i dont go out of my way to attack theists, but whenever someone asks me if i believe in god, and i say, "no im an atheist" they begin to attack me

I find that hard to believe unless you do something stupid like seek out people that hate atheists.

Originally posted by chickenlover98
as for matter of design id say random chance. annoying, but actually much more likely considering the number of atheists to the religious

You would credit children raised by atheists almost always becoming Christian to random chance? That's completely insane.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
And of course when they talk about "atheists" they mean the ones that go out and mudered people. Problem solved.

When it comes right down to it you're a bigot and doing a very poor job of rationalizing it.

I didn't say there were any atheist loving countries.

I find that hard to believe unless you do something stupid like seek out people that hate atheists.

You would credit children raised by atheists almost always becoming Christian to random chance? That's completely insane.

am i biased against christians? yes of course. the way the media portrays them, the way they portray themselves, is not likeable. not at all. i dont rly care what you believe, since you seem to be doing what most christians do, and thats just rag on the poor lil atheist.

when did i ever say children raised by atheists become christian??? i was referring to children raised under religious or undecided parents becoming atheist a much higher occurance. i would assume that to be actually about the same percentage of change on both sides, seeing that people are easily influenced by their surroundings and personal experience

Originally posted by A Dose Of Vraya
So Jesus was immaculate too? I thought Mary was the only person ever without sin. 😕

Mary was a sinner just like everyone else who has descended from Adam. The only Person ever to walk this earth without sin is Jesus the Christ. Mary needed to be saved from her sins just like the rest of us. Mary even acknowledged that God is her Savior:

Luke 1:46-47
46 And Mary said: "My soul magnifies the Lord, 47 And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior.

Originally posted by chickenlover98
look i dont like extremely devout christians especially because they dont listen to reason. if you look at how the basis for religion forms its during early childhood. you were (most likely) brainwashed into believing in christianity because your parents brought you up that way. VERY FEW atheists were born into a family of atheists. thats a choice people make. christianity people are born into.

I as an atheist am persecuted solely by christians. my family doesnt really give a ****, but christians in general feel the need to fight it. they say "you know your going to hell right?" atheism in general is disproved by the entire religious community and jus about the whole world. so EXCUSE ME for being bitter. especially when dealing with some one like you who doesnt actually look beyond the title of atheist. EXCUSE ME, for being angry when the answer is so clear to me.

whens the last time you heard of a group of atheists murdering a bunch of christians for believing in god? never. thats when. shall we name just a few instances of christians slaughtering people for other beliefs? the inquisition, the crusades, hell they even excomunnicated galileo for saying the earth revolved around the sun. so dont come to me, telling me im wrong and that your better because your a christian.

now JIA on the other hand, was severly beaten with bricks, and grew up in a hospital filled with asbestus. he tries to hide it as much as he can yet its such a pitiul attempt. he's an idiot who doesnt know how to argue. in fact i havent really even seen him argue the last five pages just repeatedly ask questions.

i see no reason to argue with him, when mocking him is oh so much fun

Chickenlover98, I am praying for you because Jesus loves you.

Originally posted by chickenlover98
because it rationally explains a much more likely alternative to god 😉

Evolution is nothing more than an unsubstantiated theory.

http://www.americanvision.org/articlearchive2007/12-04-07.asp

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Do the world a favor: never become a detective, ok?

Did the Theory of Gravity and the Theory of Relativity also come from Satan? And if not, why does Evolution reserve the special honor of Satanic intervention?

Life cannot come from non-life.

http://www.americanvision.org/articlearchive2007/12-04-07.asp

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Mary was a sinner just like everyone else who has descended from Adam. The only Person ever to walk this earth without sin is Jesus the Christ. Mary needed to be saved from her sins just like the rest of us. Mary even acknowledged that God is her Savior:

[B]Luke 1:46-47
46 And Mary said: "My soul magnifies the Lord, 47 And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior. [/B]

i hope jesus accidentally killed something. just to ruin ur "no sin" theory

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Chickenlover98, I am praying for you because Jesus loves you.
and im praying that you have your hands bound behind your back for the rest of eternity so i can never hear another idiotic comment from you. i dont want YOUR prayers. you are an idiot. case closed

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Evolution is nothing more than an unsubstantiated theory.

http://www.americanvision.org/articlearchive2007/12-04-07.asp

and intelligent design is evolution orchestrated by god. which makes it impossible. evolution is completely possible and is occuring.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Life cannot come from non-life.

http://www.americanvision.org/articlearchive2007/12-04-07.asp

uh wrong. atoms are technically non life until they bond with molecules that give them properties of life. so in essence you hardcore failed right there

Originally posted by chickenlover98
and intelligent design is evolution orchestrated by god. which makes it impossible. evolution is completely possible and is occuring.

How is intelligent design evolution? You sound confused. More importantly, what do you know that the experts do not?

Originally posted by chickenlover98
uh wrong. atoms are technically non life until they bond with molecules that give them properties of life. so in essence you hardcore failed right there

"Properties of life." Life and properties of life are not one and the same.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
"Properties of life." Life and properties of life are not one and the same.
they are not just properties of life, they are the basic units of life. they are life on a microscopical level.

its like saying DNA are nucleic acids, and their properties are nucleotides. But thats just a property of the nucleic acid and it's not the same.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
"Properties of life." Life and properties of life are not one and the same.
the properties of life is describing what we classify as life idiot. f\if i say that a camel has the properties of life id be correct. if i said a rock had the properties of life id be wrong. you ultra fail for terrible semantics

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
How is intelligent design evolution? You sound confused. More importantly, what do you know that the experts do not?
You don't have an F'n clue as to what evolution is much less be able to intelligently discuss it without you always jumping to the wild statements. 😐
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
"Properties of life." Life and properties of life are not one and the same.
and the response
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
More importantly, what do you know that the experts do not?
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You sound confused.

😆

Originally posted by chickenlover98
whens the last time you heard of a group of atheists murdering a bunch of christians for believing in god? never. thats when. shall we name just a few instances of christians slaughtering people for other beliefs? the inquisition, the crusades, hell they even excomunnicated galileo for saying the earth revolved around the sun.

http://www.worldwidechallenge.org/2005/novdec057.html

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/1998/int/980511/asia.modernday_martyrs.a34.html

http://www.buganda.com/martyrs.htm

While you're sitting comfortably in a country that enforces religious freedom that even includes not having a religion at all, there are Christians out in the world being killed for what they believe in.

http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/crusades.htm

The Inquisition was a horrible evil in world history, and excommunicating Galileo was a huge, embarassing mistake in hindsight, but why don't you read this link about the history of the Crusades? You can believe whatever you want, but don't use examples from history that you're only vaguely familiar with to justify them.

Originally posted by willofthewisp
http://www.worldwidechallenge.org/2005/novdec057.html

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/1998/int/980511/asia.modernday_martyrs.a34.html

http://www.buganda.com/martyrs.htm

While you're sitting comfortably in a country that enforces religious freedom that even includes not having a religion at all, there are Christians out in the world being killed for what they believe in.

To be fair some of that does support the point it seems he's trying to make. Outside of communist nations the ones killing Christians are themselves theists of one sort or another. In fact in reading the third one paints a very negative picture one of one side of Christianity.

But each one illustrates the point that Christians do die for their beliefs. If a Sunni is killed by a Shi'ite for believing what he/she believes, then it is still martyrdom. I'm just trying to counter chicken's assertion that all Christians in the world live so comfortably they seem to have nothing better to do with their free time than kill everyone else.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Mary was a sinner just like everyone else who has descended from Adam. The only Person ever to walk this earth without sin is Jesus the Christ. Mary needed to be saved from her sins just like the rest of us. Mary even acknowledged that God is her Savior:

[B]Luke 1:46-47
46 And Mary said: "My soul magnifies the Lord, 47 And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior. [/B]

ok, that's just kind of odd due to the fact that I used to go to a school called immaculate heart of Mary. Why would God have picked her in the first place above other women if she was with sin. Also, your quote doesn't make much sense because even though she acknowledged god as her saviour, that doesn't mean she was a sinner.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Mary was a sinner just like everyone else who has descended from Adam. The only Person ever to walk this earth without sin is Jesus the Christ. Mary needed to be saved from her sins just like the rest of us. Mary even acknowledged that God is her Savior:

[B]Luke 1:46-47
46 And Mary said: "My soul magnifies the Lord, 47 And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior. [/B]

😕 But Mary called God her Savior, not Jesus.