Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[B]1 Peter 2:21-22
21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
22 “ Who committed no sin, nor was deceit found in His mouth”Jesus is sinless; therefore, His heart is not full of deceit or sin. Hence, Jesus could afford to be led by the Holy Spirit. Actually, all believers can be led by the Spirit as well. [/B]
I'm sorry, an actual quote from Jesus?
Originally posted by Devil Kingnope just when theyre especially idiotic. ive never had a problem with your posts although i personally find them complicated and harrd to understand at times.
Fine. I'll not debate my motivation with you. Perhaps you should spend less time telling me how absurd I am, and more time telling him how stupid he is. I realize that will be more satisfying for you, since telling someone else they're stupid is your primary reason for participation in a discussion on this forum.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlivelook buddy im REALLY sick of your retarded ass. if you dont like being human, seriously kill yourself. following your emotions and desires is literally natural and right, and following your logic, god created us this way to live. why would god create us with emotions and urges and then say, completely ignore them and if you break your commitment to not do what you were literally born to, im condemning you to hell. go live in your fantasy
I disagree with the following your heart part because:[B]Jeremiah 17:9
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it?I think that any true seeker after the Truth should ask Jesus to reveal it to them. [/B]
Originally posted by Devil King
"And that, is why you fail." You blame every instance of contention on the involvment of satan, while excusing the obvious and blatant inconsistancies of your own strictly-biblical perspective.Sadly, the evidence provided by your own god is the very evidence that disproves his absolute involvment. I think it's sad that when you die you'll expect to see angels and trumpeting horns, but will be answered only by your own god telling you what a waste of time your life was.
And why? Because you will spend your time telling others how much god hates them, when your own god spent his own time telling others how much he loved them.
I don't recall ever telling anyone that God hates them. Go back through my threads and posts.
I blame the devil for the lie of evolution not for every instance of contention as such.
I will see angels and hear trumpeting horns, as well as the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. I will behold New Jerusalem and its streets of gold, gates of pearl, and foundations of every precious stone.
Renditions of New Jerusalem. New Jerusalem will be relocated to earth one day.
Revelation 21:21
The twelve gates were twelve pearls: each individual gate was of one pearl. And the street of the city was pure gold, like transparent glass .
This is going to be my new hometown for eternity.
The entire city in Heaven (it is called New Jerusalem) is pure gold (transparent like glass) and it is surrounded by a wall made of jasper. The foundations of New Jerusalem are twelve precious stones (jasper, sapphire, chalcedony, emerald, sardonyx, sardius, chrysolite, beryl, topaz, chrysoprase, jacinth, and amethyst). Some are depicted here.
Revelation 21:18-20
18 The construction of its wall was of jasper ; and the city was pure gold, like clear glass . 19 The foundations of the wall of the city were adorned with all kinds of precious stones: the first foundation was jasper, the second sapphire, the third chalcedony, the fourth emerald, 20 the fifth sardonyx, the sixth sardius, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth chrysoprase, the eleventh jacinth, and the twelfth amethyst.
The Bible does not really describe what Heaven looks like but it does describe what the Heavenly city, New Jerusalem, looks like. Heaven is not this city, but the city is a subset of Heaven. Heaven is perhaps a planet. The Bible does not say that so I will just stick to the Bible's description of New Jerusalem.
The jasper wall of New Jerusalem is 600 feet high, its length 1500 miles, and its width 1500 miles. I got one word to describe this: Wow! Amazing! Huge! I can't wait! Sorry, folks for getting a little carried away. New Jerusalem is half the distance of the United States, and it is a city! There isn't a city this large in the universe. God truly is omnipotent or Almighty. The sheer power it took to create a city of this magnitude astounds me.
1 Timothy 2:3-4,
“For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men [i.e. people] to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.”
Romans 10:13,
“‘For ‘whoever calls on the name of the Lord [Jesus Christ] shall be saved.’”
John 14:1-3,
“Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God [i.e. the Father], believe also in Me [i.e. Jesus Christ]. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go to prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also.”
[Matthew 11:28-30
Come to Me [i.e. Jesus Christ], all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”
Revelation 22:17
And the Spirit [i.e. God] and the bride [i.e. the church] say, “Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” And let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely.
Originally posted by chickenlover98
look buddy im REALLY sick of your retarded ass. if you dont like being human, seriously kill yourself. following your emotions and desires is literally natural and right, and following your logic, god created us this way to live. why would god create us with emotions and urges and then say, completely ignore them and if you break your commitment to not do what you were literally born to, im condemning you to hell. go live in your fantasy
Chickenlover98...you are a sinner, but there is hope for you in Jesus.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I don't recall ever telling anyone that God hates them. Go back through my threads and posts.I blame the devil for the lie of evolution not for every instance of contention as such.
I will see angels and hear trumpeting horns, as well as the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. I will behold New Jerusalem and its streets of gold, gates of pearl, and foundations of every precious stone.
Renditions of New Jerusalem. New Jerusalem will be relocated to earth one day.
[B]Revelation 21:21
The twelve gates were twelve pearls: each individual gate was of one pearl. And the street of the city was pure gold, like transparent glass .This is going to be my new hometown for eternity.
The entire city in Heaven (it is called New Jerusalem) is pure gold (transparent like glass) and it is surrounded by a wall made of jasper. The foundations of New Jerusalem are twelve precious stones (jasper, sapphire, chalcedony, emerald, sardonyx, sardius, chrysolite, beryl, topaz, chrysoprase, jacinth, and amethyst). Some are depicted here.Revelation 21:18-20
18 The construction of its wall was of jasper ; and the city was pure gold, like clear glass . 19 The foundations of the wall of the city were adorned with all kinds of precious stones: the first foundation was jasper, the second sapphire, the third chalcedony, the fourth emerald, 20 the fifth sardonyx, the sixth sardius, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth chrysoprase, the eleventh jacinth, and the twelfth amethyst.The Bible does not really describe what Heaven looks like but it does describe what the Heavenly city, New Jerusalem, looks like. Heaven is not this city, but the city is a subset of Heaven. Heaven is perhaps a planet. The Bible does not say that so I will just stick to the Bible's description of New Jerusalem.
The jasper wall of New Jerusalem is 600 feet high, its length 1500 miles, and its width 1500 miles. I got one word to describe this: Wow! Amazing! Huge! I can't wait! Sorry, folks for getting a little carried away. New Jerusalem is half the distance of the United States, and it is a city! There isn't a city this large in the universe. God truly is omnipotent or Almighty. The sheer power it took to create a city of this magnitude astounds me.
1 Timothy 2:3-4,
“For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men [i.e. people] to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.”Romans 10:13,
“‘For ‘whoever calls on the name of the Lord [Jesus Christ] shall be saved.’”John 14:1-3,
“Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God [i.e. the Father], believe also in Me [i.e. Jesus Christ]. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go to prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also.”[Matthew 11:28-30
Come to Me [i.e. Jesus Christ], all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”Revelation 22:17
And the Spirit [i.e. God] and the bride [i.e. the church] say, “Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” And let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely. [/B]
Perhaps an un-edited or added-to quote? Maybe one when Jesus, in no uncertain terms, places himself above and beyond the very peasants and abused people you now claim the very same problems experienced by the Roman's empire, Jesus so hated? Or, perhaps a quote that soundly disputes the blatant persecution of their servants as excerscised by the very Roman oppressors that Jesus supposedly came to preach against?
Originally posted by JesusIsAlivelook i understand that your mentally retarded, but there is help for people like you. tinfoil hats for instance. a good place for you to go right now would be an insane asylum. get help, you certainly need it
Chickenlover98...you are a sinner, but there is hope for you in Jesus.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveWhy should I spend my time trying to debate with you when you have already stated that no amount of proof or evidence will prove to you that God doesn't exist? Why should I spend the time trying to form my words in a well thought out thought when you will ignore it and brush it aside? Your questions to me as of late as I have explained before in detail are dumb idiotic questions that are designed without an answer and to lead the answerer into a trap or words and semantics, so why should I answer them again?
Dumb questions? You are more articulate than this.
Originally posted by Da Pittman
Why should I spend my time trying to debate with you when you have already stated that no amount of proof or evidence will prove to you that God doesn't exist? Why should I spend the time trying to form my words in a well thought out thought when you will ignore it and brush it aside? Your questions to me as of late as I have explained before in detail are dumb idiotic questions that are designed without an answer and to lead the answerer into a trap or words and semantics, so why should I answer them again?
What makes you think he will not simply ignore and brush aside this post? I bet he will just ask you that same question again. 😆
Originally posted by chickenlover98
look i understand that your mentally retarded, but there is help for people like you. tinfoil hats for instance. a good place for you to go right now would be an insane asylum. get help, you certainly need it
So only Christians do the persecuting around here, huh? Maybe persecution was too strong a word in the "confession" thread, but I think someone that can't rationally discuss anything and resorts to name calling and making someone feel stupid falls under persecution to some degree. Thanks for being a prime example of the point I was making back there.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveSo Jesus was immaculate too? I thought Mary was the only person ever without sin. 😕
[B]1 Peter 2:21-22
21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
22 “ Who committed no sin, nor was deceit found in His mouth”Jesus is sinless; therefore, His heart is not full of deceit or sin. Hence, Jesus could afford to be led by the Holy Spirit. Actually, all believers can be led by the Spirit as well. [/B]
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
How does evolution make sense? I have sat down and thought about it--it is not possible.
Do the world a favor: never become a detective, ok?
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I believe that evolution is the most pervasive and pernicious lie that satan has ever devised.
Did the Theory of Gravity and the Theory of Relativity also come from Satan? And if not, why does Evolution reserve the special honor of Satanic intervention?
Originally posted by willofthewisplook i dont like extremely devout christians especially because they dont listen to reason. if you look at how the basis for religion forms its during early childhood. you were (most likely) brainwashed into believing in christianity because your parents brought you up that way. VERY FEW atheists were born into a family of atheists. thats a choice people make. christianity people are born into.
So only Christians do the persecuting around here, huh? Maybe persecution was too strong a word in the "confession" thread, but I think someone that can't rationally discuss anything and resorts to name calling and making someone feel stupid falls under persecution to some degree. Thanks for being a prime example of the point I was making back there.
I as an atheist am persecuted solely by christians. my family doesnt really give a ****, but christians in general feel the need to fight it. they say "you know your going to hell right?" atheism in general is disproved by the entire religious community and jus about the whole world. so EXCUSE ME for being bitter. especially when dealing with some one like you who doesnt actually look beyond the title of atheist. EXCUSE ME, for being angry when the answer is so clear to me.
whens the last time you heard of a group of atheists murdering a bunch of christians for believing in god? never. thats when. shall we name just a few instances of christians slaughtering people for other beliefs? the inquisition, the crusades, hell they even excomunnicated galileo for saying the earth revolved around the sun. so dont come to me, telling me im wrong and that your better because your a christian.
now JIA on the other hand, was severly beaten with bricks, and grew up in a hospital filled with asbestus. he tries to hide it as much as he can yet its such a pitiul attempt. he's an idiot who doesnt know how to argue. in fact i havent really even seen him argue the last five pages just repeatedly ask questions.
i see no reason to argue with him, when mocking him is oh so much fun
Originally posted by Quiero Motabecause it rationally explains a much more likely alternative to god 😉
Do the world a favor: never become a detective, ok?Did the Theory of Gravity and the Theory of Relativity also come from Satan? And if not, why does Evolution reserve the special honor of Satanic intervention?
Originally posted by chickenlover98
VERY FEW atheists were born into a family of atheists. thats a choice people make. christianity people are born into.
So either atheists don't have children or kids magically are born Christian to atheist parents. Sucks to be you, but it does speak to some manner of design.
Originally posted by chickenlover98
I as an atheist am persecuted solely by christians.
Do you go out of your way to attack any other theists where you live?
Originally posted by chickenlover98
my family doesnt really give a ****, but christians in general feel the need to fight it. they say "you know your going to hell right?" atheism in general is disproved by the entire religious community and jus about the whole world.
How did you manage to get out and meet roughly one billion Christians from all corners of the globe needed to make such an assessment about "christians in general"? But actually you said "jus about the whole world" which comes to over three billion people (again from every corner of the globe) that you would have to meet.
Originally posted by chickenlover98
so EXCUSE ME for being bitter. especially when dealing with some one like you who doesnt actually look beyond the title of atheist. EXCUSE ME, for being angry when the answer is so clear to me.
Wrestle not with monsters.
Then again maybe you were just born into idiocy.
Originally posted by chickenlover98
whens the last time you heard of a group of atheists murdering a bunch of christians for believing in god? never. thats when. shall we name just a few instances of christians slaughtering people for other beliefs? the inquisition, the crusades, hell they even excomunnicated galileo for saying the earth revolved around the sun. so dont come to me, telling me im wrong and that your better because your a christian.
Strawman rhetoric.
Originally posted by chickenlover98
i see no reason to argue with him, when mocking him is oh so much fun
Clearly not being Christian has saved you from being a bigot. Clearly.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I disagree with the following your heart part because:[B]Jeremiah 17:9
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it?I think that any true seeker after the Truth should ask Jesus to reveal it to them. [/B]
yeah, i guess i misworded that, because i pray for God to fill my heart with what he desires for me, so that i can follow my heart
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaosim not mocking him for being christian persay, but the way he advocates it. when i say "christians in general" im speaking about the united states. and to my knowledge i dont know of any "atheist loving" countries. in fact usually they are shunned or beheaded.
So either atheists don't have children or kids magically are born Christian to atheist parents. Sucks to be you, but it does speak to some manner of design.Do you go out of your way to attack any other theists where you live?
How did you manage to get out and meet roughly one billion Christians from all corners of the globe needed to make such an assessment about "christians in general"? But actually you said "jus about the whole world" which comes to over three billion people (again from every corner of the globe) that you would have to meet.
Wrestle not with monsters.
Then again maybe you were just born into idiocy.
Strawman rhetoric.
Clearly not being Christian has saved you from being a bigot. Clearly.
no i dont go out of my way to attack theists, but whenever someone asks me if i believe in god, and i say, "no im an atheist" they begin to attack me
as for matter of design id say random chance. annoying, but actually much more likely considering the number of atheists to the religious