Can you handle the Truth?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I read the article and there is nothing to support your idea that life could not exist 100,000 years ago. As a matter of fact, if what you say is true, then we would have no oil on the Earth today.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
fine. you tell me how evolution explains oil and i will tell you how creationism explains it.

😆 Look, you go to school and learn how oil was made, and keep the ID stuff to yourself. 😉

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i dont know what it is you are trying to prove if you are trying to emply that the earth goes through varying seasons then you have succeeded.
if it is to prove the ice age happen then again you have succeeded.
if it is to prove life started somewhere 90 to 100,000 yrs then you have failed.. due to the fact that cromagmen and various huminids lived during the ice age along with many other animals. 😮

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
fine. you tell me how evolution explains oil and i will tell you how creationism explains it.

fossil fuel wiki:

Fossil fuels are formed from the preserved remains of organisms including phytoplankton and zooplankton that have settled to the sea (or lake) bottom in large quantities under anoxic conditions. Over geological time, this organic matter, mixed with mud, is buried under heavy layers of sediment. The resulting high levels of heat and pressure cause the organic matter to chemically alter, first into a waxy material known as kerogen which is found in oil shales, and then with more heat into liquid and gaseous hydrocarbons in a process known as catagenesis.

should add the fact that it takes millions of yrs to form

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
first of all, this is assuming once again that evolution is fact. Second of all, cro-magnun man is an established HOAX. there never was a fossil. Third of all, the earth at that orbital would go through a phase of UNSURVIVABLE HEAT and UNSURVIVABLE COLD once a year. it would not be an AGE of ice. it would be a SEASON of ice.

So please tell me where in your article that says that life can not survive.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
first of all, this is assuming once again that evolution is fact. Second of all, cro-magnun man is an established HOAX. there never was a fossil. Third of all, the earth at that orbital would go through a phase of UNSURVIVABLE HEAT and UNSURVIVABLE COLD once a year. it would not be an AGE of ice. it would be a SEASON of ice.

Unsurvivable for who? Animals adapt over time. Also, fossils are not hoaxes.

If you are going to go down that path I suggest you go to the conspiracy forum.

Well lets look at diamonds

"The time it takes to make a diamond should not be confused with the
diamond's age. A diamond could form and then just sit around for a long
time. Many of the diamonds we find at the surface of the earth or in mines
are very old, perhaps 3 billion years (the Siberian diamond inclusions
mentioned above are apparently 3.4 to 3.1 billion years old).

David Smith, Ph.D.
Geology and Environmental Science
La Salle University, Philadelphia, PA
"
http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2001-01/980269533.Es.r.html

He must be a quack because diamonds can only be 100,000 years old.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
first of all, this is assuming once again that evolution is fact. Second of all, cro-magnun man is an established HOAX. there never was a fossil. Third of all, the earth at that orbital would go through a phase of UNSURVIVABLE HEAT and UNSURVIVABLE COLD once a year. it would not be an AGE of ice. it would be a SEASON of ice.

just because piltdown orchestrated a hoax of the cro magnun you ignore my entire statement of other huminids and animals on the planet?

so your believe is that their is a vast evolutionary conspiracy world wide involving independently funded scientist as well as government funded scientist about evolution and the huminids genealogy DNA record?

also if the world was completely uninhabitable why is their fossil records of various life on the planet dating past the 100,000 yr mark?

also the entire world would not suffer the same climate change all at once, have you heard of the equator? the part facing the sun would have the most direct effect then you also had the protection that snow and ice caps would provide to help cool the planet as well as redirect the solar heat/energy.

instead of directly answering my post you all have found more evolution based ideas that contradict it. You can't change the fact that before 100,000 years ago the earth would have been too close the sun to sustain life.

as for fossil fuels, how did the fossils make it down that far to get pressurized. People have made fossil fuels with turkey entrails in laboratories. Its no secret that you don't need a million years to make fossil fuels. My answer is the flood. When all of the people and plants and animals became submerged in mud, all of the pressure eventually turned them into oil. also there is this phenomena called "rotting" as organic matter does not last for "millions of years" to get buried in moist or damp ground and become fossilized. It rots. if you want to argue fossils, go look at the fossilized trees that stand up straight through "millions of years" of geological layers. http://creationwiki.org/Joggins%2C_Nova_Scotia

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
instead of directly answering my post you all have found more [b]evolution based ideas that contradict it. You can't change the fact that before 100,000 years ago the earth would have been too close the sun to sustain life.[/B]

You have not provided any evidence that life could not survive.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
as for fossil fuels, how did the fossils make it down that far to get pressurized. People have [b]made fossil fuels with turkey entrails in laboratories. Its no secret that you don't need a million years to make fossil fuels. My answer is the flood. When all of the people and plants and animals became submerged in mud, all of the pressure eventually turned them into oil. also there is this phenomena called "rotting" as organic matter does not last for "millions of years" to get buried in moist or damp ground and become fossilized. It rots. if you want to argue fossils, go look at the fossilized trees that stand up straight through "millions of years" of geological layers. http://creationwiki.org/Joggins%2C_Nova_Scotia [/B]

There was no world wide flood. This is just a story in the bible.

The reason the oil is under the ground is because the ancient surface got buried millions of years ago.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
instead of directly answering my post you all have found more [b]evolution based ideas that contradict it. You can't change the fact that before 100,000 years ago the earth would have been too close the sun to sustain life.

"as for fossil fuels, how did the fossils make it down that far to get pressurized. People have made fossil fuels with turkey entrails in laboratories. Its no secret that you don't need a million years to make fossil fuels. My answer is the flood. When all of the people and plants and animals became submerged in mud, all of the pressure eventually turned them into oil. also there is this phenomena called "rotting" as organic matter does not last for "millions of years" to get buried in moist or damp ground and become fossilized. It rots. if you want to argue fossils, go look at the fossilized trees that stand up straight through "millions of years" of geological layers. http://creationwiki.org/Joggins%2C_Nova_Scotia [/B]

your own link that you are siding as evidence denies the whole extreme heat climate and uses it's ice sheet defense to reflect the sun rays, as well as the earth hemisphere defense. you are simply picking parts of the theory that you believe and ignoring the rest to suit your view. please reread the entire link carefully.

"Because this tilt changes, the seasons as we know them can become exaggerated. More tilt means more severe seasons—warmer summers and colder winters; less tilt means less severe seasons—cooler summers and milder winters. It's the cool summers that are thought to allow snow and ice to last from year-to-year in high latitudes, eventually building up into massive ice sheets. There are positive feedbacks in the climate system as well, because an Earth covered with more snow reflects more of the sun's energy into space, causing additional cooling".
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Milankovitch
/milankovitch_2.php

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
just because piltdown orchestrated a hoax of the cro magnun you ignore my entire statement of other huminids and animals on the planet?

also the entire world would not suffer the same climate change all at once, have you heard of the equator? the part facing the sun would have the most direct effect then you also had the protection that snow and ice caps would provide to help cool the planet as well as redirect the solar heat/energy.

Currently, the earth rotates on its axis (that's the imaginary center line that runs through the earth) 365 times per year.

Every time the earth goes around the sun, that's a year. So the earth rotates 365 times per revolution around the sun. At 98,000 bc, the earth would have been spinning faster, but lets not get into that.

Now what causes seasons (because the way the sun spins around the earth is circular) is the tilt of the earth's axis. as the earth revolves, because of the tilt to the axis, different parts get closer to the sun. Here are my calculations.

so we see that the ice and snow that forms in the winter and the blistering heat in the summer can be attributed to no more than 3147 miles of variational distance in the seasons. we are about 93 million miles away from the sun. from the diagram, we can safely assume that the sun is less than a third of that. that's about 30 million miles away from the sun, or 60 million miles closer. Now take that 110 degree weather you have in the summer and multiply that 19 times. the hottest day of the year would be 2000 degrees. survive that, dumbass.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You have not provided any evidence that life could not survive.

There was no world wide flood. This is just a story in the bible.

The reason the oil is under the ground is because the ancient surface got buried millions of years ago.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
your own link that you are siding as evidence denies the whole extreme heat climate and uses it's ice sheet defense to reflect the sun rays, as well as the earth hemisphere defense. you are simply picking parts of the theory that you believe and ignoring the rest to suit your view. please reread the entire link carefully.

There are positive feedbacks in the climate system as well, because an Earth covered with more snow reflects more of the sun's energy into space, causing additional cooling".
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Milankovitch
/milankovitch_2.php

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
says you because i just posted proof. why don't you address my proof (AKA THOSE ****ING TREES) and stop trolling.

What trees? I don't read everything you post, and calling someone a troll for no other reason then because they disagree with you is trolling its self.

Also, were did you get "1800-2000 degrees". 😆

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What trees? I don't read everything you post, and calling someone a troll for no other reason then because they disagree with you is trolling its self.

Also, were did you get "1800-2000 degrees". 😆

Fine here you go

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/lorence_collins/polonium.html

Now how about life that exists today that survives and thrives in extreme cold and heat? How do you explain this based on your theory?

those were all qoutes from your scientist that you have bn siding from your link........ now who is the dumbass? do we seriously expect to believe you, when you just showed a blatant hypocrisy of your believe of the person your are referencing and his believes of how the earth and climate would work. seriously you just question milankovitch so you have a better understanding then him and scientist today who support him.

this was the most obvious pick and choose moment of his theory so far.

there is a word called critical thinking learned it in school it is what allowed me to make a similar argument in my previous post similar to what was just mention here with the ice sheets and the equator.. take a look at my last post. i am no scientist but you can see the similar thinking and common sense at play.

the last two qoute boxes that you answered werent mine they were from your scientist and link page 😛

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
look at the algebra. are you blind?

What algebra? 😕 Do you mean that stick figures you posted in the other thread?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What algebra? 😕 Do you mean that stick figures you posted in the other thread?

Tell them the truth Doctor, there is every possibility that the Delta Wave will be complete but NO possibility of refining it.