Can you handle the Truth?

Started by Shakyamunison432 pages

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
What opinion?

If you mean "gay marriage isn't valid" then I have already clarified my position on that in the initial statement.

I don't want to back read, sorry. And yes, I mean the "gay marriage isn't valid" opinion.

So, I will ask you another question. Do you see marriage between a man and woman of a different religion (like Buddhism or Islam) to be a valid marriage?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't want to back read, sorry. And yes, I mean the "gay marriage isn't valid" opinion.

So, I will ask you another question. Do you see marriage between a man and woman of a different religion (like Buddhism or Islam) to be a valid marriage?


No.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
No.

So, all marriages that are not Christian, are invalid?

Why is no one reading here anymore?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So, all marriages that are not Christian, are invalid?
Originally posted by Bardock42
Why is no one reading here anymore?

Shakya, you know my answer to that question because you already asked it: please get to the point.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Shakya, you know my answer to that question because you already asked it: please get to the point.

I just wanted to see you say that marriage is a Christian institution.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That person is on my ignore list.
I just wanted to clarify the situation.

I'll be sure to quote him more often then.
Yeah I don't view non-Catholic marriages as spiritually valid before God any more than I view Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam as being valid belief structures...

What's your point about polling booths?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I just wanted to see you say that marriage is a Christian instatution.

I didn't say I did see it as a "Christian" institution.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
I'll be sure to quote him more often then.

Yeah I don't view non-Catholic marriages as spiritually valid before God any more than I view Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam as being valid belief structures...

What's your point about polling booths?

People take their beliefs into the polling booth, but I could see you not doing that.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
People take their beliefs into the polling booth, but I could see you not doing that.

I already stated:
I do not recognise Islam as valid.
I do not recognise gay marriage as valid.

I would not vote to prohibit Muslim's from worshipping.
I would not vote to prohibit Gays from living how they chose.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
...I didn't say I did see it as a "Christian" institution.

I have a general idea of how you see "the Church" and "the world". The word institution is just my attempt to express that.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
I already stated:
I do not recognise Islam as valid.
I do not recognise gay marriage as valid.

I would not vote to prohibit Muslim's from worshipping.
I would not vote to prohibit Gays from living how they chose.

There are a lot of other people who will vote to stop... And a lot of these people live in the US.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There are a lot of other people who will vote to stop... And a lot of these people live in the US.

A lot of them live in Red states too.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There are a lot of other people who will vote to stop... And a lot of these people live in the US.

Yeah well, that is up to them isn't it. You don't have a right to stop them having a say in how their society evolves and changes. They live in it, they pay for it, they are part of it.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Yeah well, that is up to them isn't it. You don't have a right to stop them having a say in how their society evolves and changes. They live in it, they pay for it, they are part of it.

But they don't follow the teachings of Jesus, therefore, their opinions are invalid. 😄

True, they follow the teachings of Paul.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I just wanted to see you say that marriage is a Christian institution.

Marriage predates Christianity, but it's always been a man-and-a-woman institution.

Originally posted by Deja~vu
True, they follow the teachings of Paul.

I think he meant Muslims, and if so he's wrong. Jesus is one of the most exalted figures in all of Islam.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Marriage predates Christianity, but it's always been a man-and-a-woman institution.
... and or women 😉 and the other way around in some cultures.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
But they don't follow the teachings of Jesus, therefore, their opinions are invalid. 😄

Not really...

Originally posted by Bardock42
Why is no one reading here anymore?

This thread has become tedious.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Which argument would that be?

That equality in marriage exists if all people may enter a marriage with the same set of legal restrictions or abstain.

Originally posted by Ordo
This thread has become tedious.

When I said here, I meant on KMC. When I said reading I meant comprehend what they read.

Originally posted by Ordo
That equality in marriage exists if all people may enter a marriage with the same set of legal restrictions or abstain.

Well....that is right, isn't it? That's not so much an argument as a fact. At least legally, equality in marriage does exist then.

And, again, that's only the statement he made. He didn't argue for anything.