Can you handle the Truth?

Started by JesusIsAlive432 pages
Originally posted by Prabhodh
You do insult me, and greatly annoy me. Also, you insult the thousands of scientists who spent enormous amounts of time doing research. You insult the open-minded who are willing to accept the beliefs of others. You insult the majority of your own religion who want to live in harmony with the world. God and evolution can exist. If only people like you could understand that we could save an enormous amount of time, paper and effort.

Have I ever insulted you, calling you an idiot?

Their research is in vain because they are looking for a way to support their preconceived idea that evolution is true. They are not being objective. They have already begun with the premise that evolution has happened without first proving it.

How can God and evolution exist when God has already established thousands of years ago in His Word how life came to exist on this earth? It states categorically that God created man from the dust of the ground, and that He breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became of living soul. Adam's life on this planet started out as a human being not a single-celled organism.

Again, do your research and prove me wrong.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Have I ever insulted you, calling you an idiot?

Their research is in vain because they are looking for a way to support their preconceived idea that evolution is true. They are not being objective. They have already begun with the premise that evolution has happened without first proving it.

How can God and evolution exist when God has already established thousands of years ago in His Word how life came to exist on this earth? It states categorically that God created man from the dust of the ground, and that He breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became of living soul. Adam's life on this planet started out as a human being not a single-celled organism.

Again, do your research and prove me wrong.

DUCK BILLED PLATYPUS.....

tell me what purpose Dog had for that poor bastard...

"Well, Jesus, I don't know what happened, but I think I might have dropped the 'odds & sods' box and here's what I got"

How about instead of trying to disprove someone else's theories (and evidence but we'll skip that point) how about you prove your much loved ID and creationism.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Have I ever insulted you, calling you an idiot?

Their research is in vain because they are looking for a way to support their preconceived idea that evolution is true. They are not being objective. They have already begun with the premise that evolution has happened without first proving it.

How can God and evolution exist when God has already established thousands of years ago in His Word how life came to exist on this earth? It states categorically that God created man from the dust of the ground, and that He breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became of living soul. Adam's life on this planet started out as a human being not a single-celled organism.

Again, do your research and prove me wrong.

There are more ways to insult someone than by calling them names. You could insult their intelligence, for instance.

Your world view is very narrow. It consists of atheists and christians. You don't adress Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism or any other religion. Why? Because you choose to believe that the bible is the truth, word to word, without any proof. And to you, the millions who believe in both and evolution and god are wrong. The millions who practice other religions are wrong. The billions with different beliefs are wrong.

You do not believe that there is possibility that you are wrong. Technically, that makes you a kind of god. You couldn't care less if your beliefs are the truth or not, as long as everyone excepts them.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[COLOR=darkblue]Have I ever insulted you, calling you an idiot?

Their research is in vain because they are looking for a way to support their preconceived idea that evolution is true. They are not being objective. They have already begun with the premise that evolution has happened without first proving it.

People accept a theory as "truth" when it is the best explanation for any given phenomenon. Evolution has two hundred years' worth of painstaking research and hundreds of thousands of credible proponents backing it; your "truth" has nothing but the written words of fallible men who died over a millennium before the advent of the accepted scientific method.

Fair choice?

How can God and evolution exist when God has already established thousands of years ago in His Word how life came to exist on this earth? It states categorically that God created man from the dust of the ground, and that He breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became of living soul. Adam's life on this planet started out as a human being not a single-celled organism.
Prove it.

Again, do your research and prove me wrong.
No one needs to prove you wrong because your assertions have no backing whatsoever; no logic, no empirical evidence, nothing. The burden of proof falls on you, and by nature, yours is an impossible position to validate. After all, it's all about "faith," isn't it?

Originally posted by Publius II
People accept a theory as "truth" when it is the best explanation for any given phenomenon. Evolution has two hundred years' worth of painstaking research and hundreds of thousands of credible proponents backing it; your "truth" has nothing but the written words of fallible men who died over a millennium before the advent of the accepted scientific method.

Fair choice?

And the definition of a scientific theory is far different to the common definition. "a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, esp. one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained: Darwin's theory of evolution". Newton's Law of Gravity had to be modified after Einstein, a scientific theory always leaves open the possibility and the challenge of its improvement.

Truth is subjective to the sense and mind set of the person.

I can't see touch, hear, smell, taste God, so in my mind he does not exist.

I can't see electricity but I can touch it (and oh does it bite). So I know electricity exists.

Christians believe in God because they are told he exists.

so I find this site doing some searching on some topics for school, we are going over evolution in school and I haven't heard this micro macro thing but from what I have been learning it makes scene to me. I'm catholic but I know that the bible is a teaching tool to live your life by, to be a good person but not word for word true.

Originally posted by MilitantDog
Truth is subjective to the sense and mind set of the person.

I can't see touch, hear, smell, taste God, so in my mind he does not exist.

I can't see electricity but I can touch it (and oh does it bite). So I know electricity exists.

Christians believe in God because they are told he exists.

Many of them believe they feel his existence.

You are obviously still in high school...am I right?

I believe in god the same way that I believe in a black hole, I can't see it or touch it but I see evidence of him there.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Have I ever insulted you, calling you an idiot?

Their research is in vain because they are looking for a way to support their preconceived idea that evolution is true. They are not being objective. They have already begun with the premise that evolution has happened without first proving it.

How can God and evolution exist when God has already established thousands of years ago in His Word how life came to exist on this earth? It states categorically that God created man from the dust of the ground, and that He breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became of living soul. Adam's life on this planet started out as a human being not a single-celled organism.

Again, do your research and prove me wrong.

JIA I know you are afraid of me, but you should really try answering this questions.

If scientists are not objective because they are trying to prove their preconceived idea that evolution is true, how are you objective by trying to prove your preconceived idea that evolution is not true?

Scientists are not trying to prove any preconceived idea; they are trying to find the truth. The problem is that they are using nature to show them the truth, while you are using a book.

The story of the creation in the bible is just a story, and does not meet the higher standard of science; nature.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Many of them believe they feel his existence...

I was once a Christian and I felt what you are talking about. I am now a Buddhist and I still feel it. It is ether that God is in Christianity and Buddhism or this feeling is just a human emotion that we mistakenly believe is from an outside source.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive

I mean transitional.

As in an animal that's a mix between a whale and a hippo because it's transitioning from one speicies to another?

Originally posted by AngryManatee
As in an animal that's a mix between a whale and a hippo because it's transitioning from one speicies to another?

Yes, but not an artist's rendering, sketch, or imagination--an actual fossil.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Yes, but not an artist's rendering, sketch, or imagination--an actual fossil.

http://www.edwardtbabinski.us/whales/evolution_of_whales/

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
http://www.edwardtbabinski.us/whales/evolution_of_whales/

ok, but where are the transitional fossils between all of those instances?

you need every single one to be right, you know

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Yes, but not an artist's rendering, sketch, or imagination--an actual fossil.

But the problem with that is that's not how the theory of evolution works. We already have whales and hippos. You wouldn't see a hippo turn into a whale or vice versa, so you're not going to find a "transitional" fossil showing a hippo turning into a whale, and that just shows how poor your understanding of the theory really is.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Yes, but not an artist's rendering, sketch, or imagination--an actual fossil.
Why do you need a fossil? This seems a little weird to me that you need a fossil from what I know fossils are hard to come by and are rare.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
But the problem with that is that's not how the theory of evolution works. We already have whales and hippos. You wouldn't see a hippo turn into a whale or vice versa, so you're not going to find a "transitional" fossil showing a hippo turning into a whale, and that just shows how poor your understanding of the theory really is.
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Originally posted by inimalist
ok, but where are the transitional fossils between all of those instances?

you need every single one to be right, you know

That was my point with the grayscale thing. 😄

I'm still waiting for a reply, JIA.