Can you handle the Truth?

Started by King Kandy432 pages

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You have failed to explain why you believe my examples of real-life absolutes are false.

I did explain a few pages back, you just ignored my post.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Actually Dark Energy violates this.

First of all Air and H2O are not the same thing. Secondly there are a variety of bacteria capable of living without either.

Violated quite often on the quantum level.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Actually Dark Energy violates this.

First of all Air and H2O are not the same thing. Secondly there are a variety of bacteria capable of living without either.

Violated quite often on the quantum level.

I'm talking about on Earth. Gravity is universal.

Bacteria...can you give me an example that is more substantial
like an animal or insect?

I don't mean on a quantum level when I say that a person cannot be in two separate places at the same time. Stop and think about it: do you live your life on this planet on a subatomic level? I know you look for loopholes in everything that I say but these are the facts. Besides Einstein did not agree with your theory at the subatomic level either.

"Einstein himself is well known for rejecting some of the claims of quantum mechanics. While clearly contributing to the field, he did not accept the more philosophical consequences and interpretations of quantum mechanics, such as the lack of deterministic causality and the assertion that a single subatomic particle can occupy numerous areas of space at one time."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mechanics

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive

Bacteria...can you give me an example that is more substantial
like an animal or insect?

To quote myself once more, why you gotta be all racist towards prokaryotes?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[COLOR=darkblue]I'm talking about on Earth. Gravity is universal.

Bacteria...can you give me an example that is more substantial
like an animal or insect?

I don't mean on a quantum level when I say that a person cannot be in two separate places at the same time. Stop and think about it: do you live your life on this planet on a subatomic level? I know you look for loopholes in everything that I say but these are the facts. Besides Einstein did not agree with your theory at the subatomic level either.[/COLOR

Is the Earth all of the universe?

What do you have against bacteria?

In Simultaneous Incarnation, two reincarnations can exist at the same time.

Originally posted by Ordo
You have yet to prove your claims true.

LMAO

GRRrrrr. You dont even have a middle-school level of understanding of science.

Just because there is gravity in China does not mean its universal. Universal means EVERYWHERE. NOT TWO LOCATIONS. Is there gravity at the exact center of the earth? At the center of a black hole? You can't prove your claims. You are ignoramt.

Bacteria are alive by every definition. Just because you are 1. uneducated, 2. uniformed, 3. ignorant, and 4. stupid, does not change fact. Your own f*cking red blood cells don't use oxygen...how do you think you can store blood in a BAG. You can't prove your claims. You are ignorant.

Lots of theories of quantum mechanics show that things can indeed be in two places at once. Just because you are not at two SPECIFIC locations at a SPECIFIC time does not mean you CAN'T be. Since you cant even understand gravity, I'm going to leave it to you to become informed. I'm very aware that this will never happen. You can't prove your claims. You are ignorant.

Time is also not suspected to be linear. I'm not even going to go there. You age as you PERCIEVE the passage of time, though you have no idea what time is. You can't prove your claims. You are ignorant.

If I was being nice, I'd give you a 12.5% (for the time thing), but since you cant even try to demonstrate of shred of knowledge about basic physical concepts, I'm still giving you a 0%.

I know you look for loopholes in whatever I say so I have no choice but to qualify everything that I say. As far as earth is concerned gravity is universal.

Bacteria is a weak example of life. It doesn't even have a nucleus for crying out loud. An animal or insect would be a stronger example.

I am not talking about on a subatomic level. I mean you personally cannot be in two places at the same time.

Time is linear and can only be understood as occurring in one direction: forward.

Question: are you gaining more life or losing it as you get closer to the grave? So there was once a time when you couldn't eat solid food, talk intelligibly, walk, read, articulate your thoughts, ride a bicycle, drive a car, solve complex equations right? What happened? You got older. You developed physically and mentally over time. Now...can you revert to your infancy? Why not? I'll tell you: because of the passage of linear time. Time does not go in reverse now does it? That proves my point that time occurs or is understood to move in only one direction--forward.

lol

only religion makes people experts in biology, astrophysics and quantum mechanics

us regular joes have to study only a part of one of those to be experts, but read the bible once, and you know QM better than all modern physicists combined.

EDIT: JIA, don't you feel, I don't know, embarassed maybe, to be talking with such certainty about subjects it is painfully obvious you don't understand? What is your thought process here?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I know you look for loopholes in whatever I say so I have no choice but to qualify everything that I say. As far as earth is concerned gravity is universal.

If you are only talking about the Earth you cannot use the term universe.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Bacteria is a weak example of life. It doesn't even have a nucleus for crying out loud. An animal or insect would be a stronger example.

It is only a bad example for your point. If you are trying to disprove your point, then it is a good example.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I am not talking about on a subatomic level. I mean you personally cannot be in two places at the same time.

It all depends on what you are.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Time is linear and can only be understood as occurring in one direction: forward.

That is not true. Time is flexible like a fabric. Sense you like Einstein, that was his idea.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Question: are you gaining more life or losing it as you get closer to the grave? So there was once a time when you couldn't eat solid food, talk intelligibly, walk, read, articulate your thoughts, ride a bicycle, drive a car, solve complex equations right? What happened? You got older. You developed physically and mentally over time. Now...can you revert to your infancy? Why not? I'll tell you: because of the passage of linear time. Time does not go in reverse now does it? That proves my point that time occurs or is understood to move in only one direction--forward.

Look up time dilation. It is a fact that someone living on a mountain top will age slower then someone living at sea level. This maybe very small, but it is real.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
If you are only talking about the Earth you cannot use the term universe.

It is only a bad example for your point. If you are trying to disprove your point, then it is a good example.

It all depends on what you are.

That is not true. Time is flexible like a fabric. Sense you like Einstein, that was his idea.

Look up time dilation. It is a fact that someone living on a mountain top will age slower then someone living at sea level. This maybe very small, but it is real.

You have not disproven anything that I have asserted.

Originally posted by inimalist
lol

only religion makes people experts in biology, astrophysics and quantum mechanics

us regular joes have to study only a part of one of those to be experts, but read the bible once, and you know QM better than all modern physicists combined.

EDIT: JIA, don't you feel, I don't know, embarassed maybe, to be talking with such certainty about subjects it is painfully obvious you don't understand? What is your thought process here?

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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You have not disproven anything that I have asserted.

The burden of proof is on you, and not on me.

Also, by saying this you are avoiding my points all together.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive

Bacteria is a weak example of life. It doesn't even have a nucleus for crying out loud. An animal or insect would be a stronger example.

It has a nucleoid, but why does it matter whether it has a nucleus or not? It still has DNA. You seem to be just making up excuses for something that obviously proves your claims to be wrong. Bacteria has all the defined characteristics of what is considered to be a living organism. You can't ignore that fact.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
To quote myself once more, why you gotta be all racist towards prokaryotes?

To me...they are a weak example of life. No nucleus having organism. *kicks bacteria*

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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
To me...they are a weak example of life. No nucleus having organism. *kicks bacteria*

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Only because it goes against your argument.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The burden of proof is on you, and not on me.

Also, by saying this you are avoiding my points all together.

Your debate style is to attempt to redefine my terms, to digress to another topic altogether, or to try and frustrate me through sheer antagonizing. I don't have time for that.

If you cannot disprove my points then do some soul searching and come back and try again.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Your debate style is to attempt to redifine my terms, to digress to another topic altogether, or to try and frustrate me through sheer antagonizing. I don't have time for that.

If you cannot disprove my points then do some soul searching and come back and try again.

So, you don't even understand what myself and others are saying to you?

Your assessment is incorrect.

I have already disproved what I can of your points.

Bacteria is considered to be life.

Time is flexible.

And when talking about the universe, you are talking about more the just Earth.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
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ya, smiley face and all

I'm just wondering where you get the idea that you have the qualifications to tell us, many of whom have formal education in the sciences, for instance, what Einstein's thoughts on Quantum Mechanics were?

You obviously don't understand Einstein as a mathematician, I'm going to guess you have never read an actual piece of work he produced, so where, according to you, do you get that expertise?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Your debate style is to attempt to redefine my terms,

not like trying to redefine bacteria as non-life though, amiright?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070726041908AAH8meZ

Originally posted by inimalist
ya, smiley face and all

I'm just wondering where you get the idea that you have the qualifications to tell us, many of whom have formal education in the sciences, for instance, what Einstein's thoughts on Quantum Mechanics were?

You obviously don't understand Einstein as a mathematician, I'm going to guess you have never read an actual piece of work he produced, so where, according to you, do you get that expertise?

When a person is right that's all that matters.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070726041908AAH8meZ

can you summarize that for a layman please?