Can you handle the Truth?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
But one causes the reader to become born again and Heaven-bound (hint: the Bible), while the other just leaves the reader bound (hint: the Qu'ran).

you just admitted the bible was man written, therefore not the wrd of of god. therefore surrender on u part. haha

Originally posted by chickenlover98
um frankly i dont care if jesus died for "mans sins" him dying doesnt mean shit. do you know hwo you christians celebrate his death? with a ****ing tree and lights. very appreciative. i am jewish by birth, but i am an atheist. give me a god damn reason to have faith.

, I'm not talking shit about you, I'm just bringing up stuff you already said. It's called debating, anyways, lets get back on topic.

Originally posted by chickenlover98
you just admitted the bible was man written, therefore not the wrd of of god. therefore surrender on u part. haha

The Bible was written by human instrumentation--under divine inspiration (that's the difference).

All Scripture is given by inspiration of God. So God is the Author but man is the pen.

um no. from what ive heard by many many many christians, the bible was recieved in the same way as the torah, it was handed to us by god and reporduced. by your logic humans wrote the bible. now i dunno bout you but humans make a shitload of errors. so somethings in that book of your even if god is real are just flatout wrong.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
But one causes the reader to become born again and Heaven-bound (hint: the Bible), while the other just leaves the reader bound (hint: the Qu'ran).

That is only your belief.

All Scripture is given by inspiration of God. So God is the Author but man is the pen.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The Bible was written by human instrumentation--under divine inspiration (that's the difference).

[B]All Scripture is given by inspiration of God. So God is the Author but man is the pen. [/B]

The Koran is also reported to be the inspired word of God. Why should I believe Christianity over Islam?

whatever. the fact of the matter is that humans mess things up. by that declaration that humans wrote the bbible is instantly stating that humans are not infallible and that it i not the word of god. less god writes it its human interpretation

Gods inspirations seems to be just everywhere!!!

Causing chaos. Isn't there someone else mentioned in the bible that is the author of that?

no idea. god seems to like the idea of torturing people by keeping them alive in the world we know when he could simply make them angels in a utopian world he has created

Originally posted by chickenlover98
whatever. the fact of the matter is that humans mess things up. by that declaration that humans wrote the bbible is instantly stating that humans are not infallible and that it i not the word of god. less god writes it its human interpretation

How Christians get around your logical argument is by saying that a nonbeliever cannot see the truth that god has hidden. They claim that god has hidden this coded information in the bible in such a way as to never be changed by man. The key is to have the holy spirit as a guild.

My philosophy, believe whatever you want, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, in any way, shape or form.

Originally posted by superkronick92
My philosophy, believe whatever you want, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, in any way, shape or form.

Does your philosophy give you the tools to deal with the suffering of life?

Originally posted by superkronick92
My philosophy, believe whatever you want, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, in any way, shape or form.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The Bible was written by human instrumentation--under divine inspiration (that's the difference).

[B]All Scripture is given by inspiration of God. So God is the Author but man is the pen. [/B]

Well I'm inspired by your ignorance so **** you!

Not really, just showing that's a flawed way to put it.

Metaphysical sources of doubt can always be doubted and molded to whatever you want them to be. Thou shall not kill but the Crusades are justified.

Oh well

Originally posted by superkronick92
My philosophy, believe whatever you want, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, in any way, shape or form.

Once a mass amount of people believe the same thing, that is unavoidable.

you realize that apparently the torah has hidden messages, using a code. apparently hitler and israel becoming a state was already there but they found it after it happened. they say it would have to be written by monkeys for the code to make sense to people

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The Bible was written by human instrumentation--under divine inspiration (that's the difference).

[B]All Scripture is given by inspiration of God. So God is the Author but man is the pen. [/B]

Man is about the most corruptible, biased pen that I've ever seen. No two Christian denominations have ever interpreted the bible the same. Not even all the members in most Christian denominations interpret the bible the same. In fact, the bible has been translated through so many different languages, I have to wonder whether anybody except an advanced historian specializing in Hebrew can even pretend to know what the bible originally said.

exactly. the bible has been corrupted even from its originally corrupted form. nothing in it can be concieved as fact

Well...as one of the only ancient records we have, it is a major part of piecing together historical events. But I agree with you: To assume it is fact simply crosses the line of logic.