Can you handle the Truth?

Started by Da Pittman432 pages

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I am not trying to be difficult, I am trying to get you to admit that you cannot sustain your thesis about folks not coming back from the dead. There have been many confirmed reports of people who have been dead in every sense of the word for more than 24 and even 72 hours who have come back to life by God's will.
No there hasn’t, even with today’s modern definition of “clinically dead” they could not and have not come back to life after 24 to 72 hours, if they have then they were not dead. Plain and simple, if this was the case then it would be all over the news world wide as the miracle of miracles and would have been published in every major and non-major medical report.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
It has already been proven over and over again. Well maybe not proven but a medical reason for this has explained the cause for the "visions" which is far more creditable than the existence of Hell or Heaven. As I have said before the classification of "dead" changes as advancements in medical technology and the understanding of biology increases each day.

You still haven't answered my question as to how can you prove that I exist?

I would like to see support for your claims. I have read the explanations that you mention but there are many more reports and eyewitness testimonies that medical science cannot explain. How does medical science account for folks having third-person accounts of seeing themselves on the operating table? These folks have described in vivid detail the events that transpired while they were outside of their bodies that only a person who was outside of their body could know. Events inside the emergency room or other operating rooms. Things that were said by doctors and nurses that they could not have been able to hear because they were dead. There are many reports of children who have died and come back to life by God's will. These same children vary in age and returned with detailed testimonies about seeing Jesus, Heaven, angels. Many of these children were to young to know what they were seeing but were still able to describe it.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
No there hasn’t, even with today’s modern definition of “clinically dead” they could not and have not come back to life after 24 to 72 hours, if they have then they were not dead. Plain and simple, if this was the case then it would be all over the news world wide as the miracle of miracles and would have been published in every major and non-major medical report.

That is your opinion.

You have not done you due diligence to verify what I have discussed. You are just casually dismissing what I am talking about without researching it so I don't respect your comments.

Don't say that I am wrong--prove that I am wrong with facts not weak, subjective opinions.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
No there hasn’t, even with today’s modern definition of “clinically dead” they could not and have not come back to life after 24 to 72 hours, if they have then they were not dead. Plain and simple, if this was the case then it would be all over the news world wide as the miracle of miracles and would have been published in every major and non-major medical report.

I thing he is talking about people in the bible. He believes the bible is fact.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I thing he is talking about people in the bible. He believes the bible is fact.

No, I am talking about people within the last 200 plus years of human history.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No, I am talking about people within the last 200 plus years of human history.

Are you talking about science fiction books?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I would like to see support for your claims. I have read the explanations that you mention but there are many more reports and eyewitness testimonies that medical science cannot explain. How does medical science account for folks having third-person accounts of seeing themselves on the operating table? These folks have described in vivid detail the events that transpired while they were outside of their bodies that only a person who was outside of their body could know. Events inside the emergency room or other operating rooms. Things that were said by doctors and nurses that they could not have been able to hear because they were dead. There are many reports of children who have died and come back to life by God's will. These same children vary in age and returned with detailed testimonies about seeing Jesus, Heaven, angels. Many of these children were to young to know what they were seeing but were still able to describe it.
As I would like you to support your claims with some sort of medical evidence, I will not spend the time (i.e. waste my time) showing you the countless medical reports disproving your “eyewitness” testimony because you would simply dismiss it every time as you have done over and over again. You ask for proof and I have shown you many times and you dismiss it with your baseless claims.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
That is your opinion.

You have not done you due diligence to verify what I have discussed. You are just casually dismissing what I am talking about without researching it so I don't respect your comments.

Don't say that I am wrong--prove that I am wrong with facts not weak, subjective opinions.

No it is not my opinion but plain and simple medical fact, I have read many medical articles on this, watch your so called “resurrections” testimonies and talked to many people in the medical profession. You just assume that because we can not explain it right here and now it must be the work of God, we have only just started understanding how the human body works. Just 50 years ago what people considered “dead” is no longer the case, there are many levels such as brain dead, legally dead and clinical death just to name a few.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
That is your opinion.

You have not done you due diligence to verify what I have discussed. You are just casually dismissing what I am talking about without researching it so I don't respect your comments.

Don't say that I am wrong--prove that I am wrong with facts not weak, subjective opinions.

How many times must it be explained to you who bears the burden of substantiation?

Your detractors do not have to prove that you are wrong, you have to prove that you are right.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
How many times must it be explained to you who bears the burden of substantiation?

Your detractors do not have to prove that you are wrong, you have to prove that you are right.

But he can't proove it. He can't handle the truth. 😉

I'm just shocked that you guys continue to respond to him. I don't think I've attempted to debate with JIA in more than a year.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I'm just shocked that you guys continue to respond to him. I don't think I've attempted to debate with JIA in more than a year.

It can be fun, in a masochistic kind of way. 😆

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I'm just shocked that you guys continue to respond to him. I don't think I've attempted to debate with JIA in more than a year.
I like to stab myself with a spoon too 😛

Originally posted by Da Pittman
I like to stab myself with a spoon too 😛

Dull spoons at that... 😆

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Dull spoons at that... 😆
If it was sharp it wouldn't be a spoon now would it 😉

Originally posted by Da Pittman
If it was sharp it wouldn't be a spoon now would it 😉

You have never been in my kitchen. 😆

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
I am staring at a computer. I do not believe that I am actually replying to Shakyamunison.

Am I delusional?

Yes.

When you pick up the phone, do you really think you're talking to your mom?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You have never been in my kitchen. 😆
Spork 😛

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Spork 😛

Plastic sporks. 😮

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You might be a web-bot. 😎
Well short circut it with Holy water..

Originally posted by debbiejo
Well short circut it with Holy water..

Shocking. 😈