Can you handle the Truth?

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
That was dumb. If I turn my head around or put on infrared goggles, I am experiencing what's there directly.

Now when I used to do acid, the anthropomorphic talking animals that my eyes were telling me I was seeing and my ears telling me I was hearing weren't really there, and a mounted camera or infrared camera would confirm that.

If a person could experience reality directly, then acid would not work on them. The reason acid causes hallucinations is because the reality that our minds make is really a chemical reality spoken between neurons.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
If a person could experience reality directly, then acid would not work on them. The reason acid causes hallucinations is because the reality that our minds make is really a chemical reality spoken between neurons.

yes, the scientific relationship between....the...neurons....oh, dancing banana!💃

i did not understand a word of that and i have ADD so.....yeah.....dancing banana! 💃

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Says who? (Think about it.)

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Exactly what I was attempting to convey. You hit the nail on the head.

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Originally posted by Darth Demise
yes, the scientific relationship between....the...neurons....oh, dancing banana!💃

i did not understand a word of that and i have ADD so.....yeah.....dancing banana! 💃

Where did I loose you? At the beginning?

Where did I loose you? At the beginning?

Oooooo........where god is. 😖mart:

or where god aint, or eart as wel call it

Originally posted by anaconda
we all did , but we dod so even before the begining

😕 I don't understand.

What I would call the Universe/God/Spirit was everywhere, even in the beginning, well if you believe in circles.

Originally posted by inimalist
I am just pointing out, i think it is funny that we conceptualize the neurological/physical processes of sight as being different from what "we see".

What I am saying is what "we see" is not always "what's really there"

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
What I am saying is what "we see" is not always "what's really there"

don't disagree at all 😉

Originally posted by inimalist
don't disagree at all 😉

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
If a person could experience reality directly, then acid would not work on them. The reason acid causes hallucinations is because the reality that our minds make is really a chemical reality spoken between neurons.

Yes, because of what's there. Acid creates illisuons, in other, not reality.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Yes, because of what's there. Acid creates illisuons, in other, not reality.

Yes, acid creates illusions, but it does this by changing the chemistry of the chemical messengers that are sent from one neuron to another. Every neuron that receives a chemical message from another neuron gets a slightly different message.

Um, ok? Thanks, Doc.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes, acid creates illusions, but it does this by changing the chemistry of the chemical messengers that are sent from one neuron to another. Every neuron that receives a chemical message from another neuron gets a slightly different message.

i actually understood that one. 😄

Originally posted by inimalist
I am just pointing out, i think it is funny that we conceptualize the neurological/physical processes of sight as being different from what "we see".

lol, up to your old tricks again 😉 .

we see it as different because the FEALING OF SIGHT= PHYSICAL PROCESS OF SIGHT, has certain absurd implications. even if it an unquestionable axiom to you.

take one for example, you see a pyramid. you have a certain mental picture of it. but in all due fairness, that same thing can be interpreted in a million different ways. people could touch it, smell it, tase it etc. a mole wud see it through reflection of sound waves and its mental picture would be inevitably different from yours. yet its the same object. so wouldnt it be a little absurd to make the claim that{even if EVERY1 sees it the same way when looking visually} the object IS the visual sight and nothing else?? i say nuthing else because in REALITY an object can only be one unified things, irresepective of people's interpretations. then why do you beleive the object IS your mental image and not the mental image of a mole????

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Um, ok? Thanks, Doc.

i think what shaky MEANT TO SAY, was that if what you saw was reality than the only way acid would be able to work is by changing that actual REALITY. {which is absurd, seeing as to the stuff u can see when doing acid}. so really, there must be some PERCEPTION/TRANSLATION from reality which is NOT in itself reality, which the acid can manipule without manipulating reality.

this is support for that fact that your INTERPRETATION of reality is not REALITY in itself.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
i think what shaky MEANT TO SAY, was that if what you saw was reality than the only way acid would be able to work is by changing that actual REALITY. {which is absurd, seeing as to the stuff u can see when doing acid}. so really, there must be some PERCEPTION/TRANSLATION from reality which is NOT in itself reality, which the acid can manipule without manipulating reality.

this is support for that fact that your INTERPRETATION of reality is not REALITY in itself.

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Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
What I am saying is what "we see" is not always "what's really there"

So, we're in the Matrix?

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