Can you handle the Truth?

Started by Nellinator432 pages

Originally posted by leonheartmm
not with that specific term, no. but i am familiar with the experiments done on basic cognitive functions on people with hemisphere deconnection, and even though at the basic cognitive level, the two brains can be seen as different with no way of communicating between themselves, it is still absurd to think that two different hemisphere, which specialise in different things, have different phenomenology and have no internal way of communicating between each other can give rise to stable SINGLE unified personalities which dont even feal the cognitive differences until put under special conditions. also, how can you describe the coordination of memory, language, general thinking, problem solbving at a higher level and beleifs etc, which admittedly all represent ONE person? infact i think if we take the hypothesis of the twin brains at face value, then the person wudnt be able to survive and it wud become very much like two twins in a robot each having overlapping control of it. the thing would fall down in a second. also, hemisphere deconnection in severe cases of eppilepsy etc continued BECAUSE it was seen that patients are pretty much ok even after it, the ethical impliocation of creating TWO people in one body, if that were the case, wud be terrible.

also, i think, this is still one place where very little research is based{obviously becaue most neurologists would like to bruch off the question as being one of philosophy and not hard sciene} on how a single personality can remain with the currently understood mechanics of neurology and basic physics in such an absurd situation. but i see it as a very big reason to think that thing lik the holographic model/soul etc are still sumwhat better explanations for a conciousness/personality than the currently taken physical model, as it can not{in my oppinion} account for the mentioned phenomenon.

I'll post some of the research when I have the time, it's quite interesting stuff. But, yes, it is definitely not well researched and is purely based off case studies to the best of my knowledge. It is a bit hard to find people willing to have their brain cut in half. There are a lot of odd psychological disorders dealing with the lack of self awareness. People failing to recognize their hand, dissociative identity disorder, etc.

Originally posted by Nellinator
I'll post some of the research when I have the time, it's quite interesting stuff. But, yes, it is definitely not well researched and is purely based off case studies to the best of my knowledge. It is a bit hard to find people willing to have their brain cut in half. There are a lot of odd psychological disorders dealing with the lack of self awareness. People failing to recognize their hand, dissociative identity disorder, etc.

psychology is interesting, but doesnt listening to other peoples problems all day suck ass? i mean sure u get paid alot and you get to fix other peoples lives, but at the same time you instill doubts in your own because your afraid you might make the same mistakes. i would hate to be a psychologist. i am a good listener, but only for so long

^ ur talking about shrinks. there are psychologists who produce IQ tests, asses and create job selection criteria, manage human resources for organisations for optimal functioning, help in designing cities to make em less hectic , same with architecture, those who create drugs for psychiatrich patients, those who study and research phenomenon in the society or in lab experiments, those who teach psychology to others, those who analyse stress levels in militaries and suffering populace, those who work in mass media and manage impression and advertising depending on the mentality of masses for mass affect, etc etc. therapists are just one type of people in the field of psychology/psychiatry/neurology .

Originally posted by leonheartmm
^ ur talking about shrinks. there are psychologists who produce IQ tests, asses and create job selection criteria, manage human resources for organisations for optimal functioning, help in designing cities to make em less hectic , same with architecture, those who create drugs for psychiatrich patients, those who study and research phenomenon in the society or in lab experiments, those who teach psychology to others, those who analyse stress levels in militaries and suffering populace, those who work in mass media and manage impression and advertising depending on the mentality of masses for mass affect, etc etc. therapists are just one type of people in the field of psychology/psychiatry/neurology .

well actually i was kind of directin that at nellinator, cause as i understand it he is a therapist. however, even understanding human physiology and psychology seems daunting to me. i just couldnt handle the diseases or whatever knowing it could happen to me. itd only make me worry lol.

(and since i dont wanna make a thread or ne thing to say this ima say it in this post😖ince im born jewish, if the jewish version of death is the correct 1, then the atheist view is correct. because in the torah it mentions heaven, but basically everyone else is just gone. so the atheist version of death, which is nothing, will still be right for me.)

^ there is no "ATHEIST" version of death. atheism doesnt specify what death is. it is just the absence of beleif in god. your referring to materialist version of death.

well i was under the impression (as is every single person i ask who is an atheist or not an atheist what they believe happens when they die) that there is absolutely nothing. if my understanding is correct a belief in nothing = nothing after death. i assume your referring to agnostics.

well i was under the impression (as is every single person i ask who is an atheist or not an atheist what they believe happens when they die)that there is absolutely nothing. if my understanding is correct a belief in nothing = nothing after death. i assume your referring to agnostics
atheist just deny a god/s/supreme being/s, to deny a god/s supreme being/s aint the same as a belief in nothing though.
So leonheartmm is right about atheism doesnt specify what death is, it just deny any god/s supreme being/s

Originally posted by chickenlover98
psychology is interesting, but doesnt listening to other peoples problems all day suck ass? i mean sure u get paid alot and you get to fix other peoples lives, but at the same time you instill doubts in your own because your afraid you might make the same mistakes. i would hate to be a psychologist. i am a good listener, but only for so long
Well, it depends on what people's problems are. Since I tend to deal most with relationship counseling it usually isn't that bad. A lot of the people I deal with just have minor problems or need someone to point them in the right direction in regards to intimacy (married couples are what I tend to see the most). I also do a lot of work teaching family members how to support and help another family member with his/her disorder. The people who just sit and listen to problems tend to follow the humanistic counseling strategy, which I find generally takes a lot longer than is really needed.

so counsellors keep your mouth shut about clients doesn't count among the cannucs

Originally posted by anaconda
so counsellors keep your mouth shut about clients doesn't count among the cannucs
I think you have a strong misunderstanding of what the agreement entails. I have not violated any trusts.

I think you have a strong misunderstanding of what the agreement entails. I have not violated any trusts
but borderlining to do so

Originally posted by anaconda
but borderlining to do so

If he doesn't use names it wouldn't approach a breach of doctor patient confidentiality . . .

If he doesn't use names it wouldn't approach a breach of doctor patient confidentiality . . .
a professional wouldnt tell his/hers line of work on a board like this, at least not in that line of work

Originally posted by anaconda
a professional wouldnt tell his/hers line of work on a board like this, at least not in that line of work

Why?

Why?
because a professional gives advice on a personal agenda, and to dispaly your country and line of work on a board like like this is , it aint likely, but it might be, that a pasient is here as well and adviced given in office can be contradicted by postings here and confuse dislead pasients

Originally posted by anaconda
because a professional gives advice on a personal agenda, and to dispaly your country and line of work on a board like like this is , it aint likely, but it might be, that a pasient is here as well and adviced given in office can be contradicted by postings here and confuse dislead pasients

well buddy, saying your country really isnt a big deal. however the patient being on the board is a valid claim, although unlikely. i sincerly doubt any of his counseled patients would go on here although that is likely. but unless he lists his name, it can never be said he was their therapist. so really it doesnt matter

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
But even the idea of the matrix is wrong at some level. The unknowable cannot be known.

I know that you know that unknowable is not knowable but how do you know since knowledge is knownable? Hence, unknowable knowledge is knowable because unknowable implies knowledge (which is knowable).

😖anta:

^im sorry, you contradicted your own existance there. happy eid/christmas/new year 😄 .

well buddy, saying your country really isnt a big deal. however the patient being on the board is a valid claim, although unlikely. i sincerly doubt any of his counseled patients would go on here although that is likely. but unless he lists his name, it can never be said he was their therapist. so really it doesnt matter
naming your country narrows the list down, and since he named his line of work people will tend to listen to what he says, too many put way too much faith in people with that line of work, as I mentioned earlier advice is given on apersonal agenda to fit the person aided.

^even if he mentioned the city he works in, he still wudnt be giving enough information to possibly breach his client's trust. plus i do not think that it was his intention so...