Good is a point of view Anakin...wow!

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If you consider coffee-shop Buddhism, Buddhism.

What is "coffee-shop buddhism?"

Buddhism that doesn't actually involve the religion. The sort of New Age crap that people actually think is Buddhism, like meditation and peace and flowers and unicorns.

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Alright, I know what you mean now, sadly I know some...

Don't we all.

Are you a buddhist?

Originally posted by Schecter
hmmmmm....so it was [b]buddhism that ****ed up star wars and turned it lame [/B]
Originally posted by queeq
Indeed.

Aye, when it was cut-and-dried, black and white, good v.s. evil Christian based mythology, we had a great set of films.

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Originally posted by sithsaber408
Aye, when it was cut-and-dried, black and white, good v.s. evil Christian based mythology, we had a great set of films.

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at least its good for something

Yeah, yeah, I'll go hide my religion back under a rock now.

(good thing it's my rock.) 😉

Anyways, I was just kidding.

There's a slight influence of Christianity on the OT, but not much.

Palps was always evil, until Lucas got a new religion.

What was the christianity in it?

That whole "chosen one"/ virgin birth crap.

So Anakin is Jesus, just more muscular.

Hold on, it was MYTHOLOGY... not christianity or buddhism... Buddhism is more about sitting underneath a tree waiting for enlightenment to strike. Where does that happen in SW?
Plus Karma is important there, Lucas made a saga about CHOICE! The man contradicts himself... or he doesn't understand buddhism.

If you believe "good is a point of view" then you can't say bad is wrong, or Hitler was bad or wrong because you already state that it's just an opinion and all opinions are "OK". If anyone truly believes that "good is a point of view" then you can't get mad at the VT killer cause he was doing what he thought was right or good. You have to have something objective to hold good to, it can't be subjective. When it comes down to it, really we are all bad, there is no one here on this earth that is good. "There is none righteous, no not one." We can only look to the cross and the empty tomb and accept Him as our Lord and Savior. Then when we are judged those who have been born again will live with Him forever.

Originally posted by queeq
Hold on, it was MYTHOLOGY... not christianity or buddhism... Buddhism is more about sitting underneath a tree waiting for enlightenment to strike.

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"Let the force flow through you."

"Attachment is forbidden. Possession is forbidden. Compassion, which I would define as unconditional love, is central to a Jedi’s life, so you might say we’re encouraged to love."

The Republic is symbolized by an EIGHT FOLD ROUND.

"Let go of everything you fear to lose."

The whole process of Jedi training at the Jedi TEMPLE.

The Yoda/swamp training.

Luke's journey to enlightnement.

Originally posted by DARTH DADDY
If you believe "good is a point of view" then you can't say bad is wrong, or Hitler was bad or wrong because you already state that it's just an opinion and all opinions are "OK". If anyone truly believes that "good is a point of view" then you can't get mad at the VT killer cause he was doing what he thought was right or good. You have to have something objective to hold good to, it can't be subjective. When it comes down to it, really we are all bad, there is no one here on this earth that is good. "There is none righteous, no not one." We can only look to the cross and the empty tomb and accept Him as our Lord and Savior. Then when we are judged those who have been born again will live with Him forever.

The Christian apolgeitcs aren't useful.

That aside, people can only define right and wrong in hindsight, once they can determine the consequences of their action. When in the process of completing an action, all you have is your own biased point of view.

The Jedi are buddhist like, I agree there. But the saga is not, because it's all about achieving something actively.

But even buddhism uses good and evil in the sense that everything that distracts you from your path to enlightenment is bad. So yes, philosophy and/or religion give denominators for what is right and wrong. Without, everything is subject to individual assesment and causes less and less social cohesion. In other words, if everyone does what is right in his own eyes, you get a mess.
Most films, books and other kinds of stories usually show you the consequences of particular choices. SW does that too, so you can LEARN what is right and wrong. If you use your own views on what is right and wrong (like Ghandi did and Hitler did) we always have to wait for the outcome. And when is that? When someone is dead and gone???
I mean, take people like Mao Tse Tung and Che Guevara... we see them more and more appearing on t-shirts and coffee mugs, as if these were such great examples? Both of them used death and/or internment in camps as a way to get rid of their oppositions. Great and wonderful freedom fighters... NOT!

Considering the Jedi are the protagonists of the saga...if we are rooting for Buddhists, how can we not be supporting them.

As far as moral relativism. EDUCATED people can try to predict the consequences of your actions. If I am Hitler, I doubt that executing 11 millino Jews, homosexuals, intellecutal, gypsies, communists, et al. will really bring real benfits to society. i can't give you a definate point for when it is ok to look back and evaluate your decision, because there is no fixed one.

Hell, the US used interment camps to imprison its own citizens. Clearly right and wrong aren't so closely associated with specific figures.

Absolutely not... So what is? What would be considered the moral right and wrong? In SW it's represented by the Jedi as priests of the Light Side. It's quite clear where things start to slip. Anakin is disobedient and goes out to slaughter Tuskens... yet Padme seems to argue taht it's allright.... I found that strange, but it was definately wrong and see where he ended up.