Does Supermans powers need a new Origin ? ...

Started by -a-m-a-n again3 pages

Does Supermans powers need a new Origin ? ...

Well there have been a lot of concerns involving the complicity of the current continuity and whether or not Bryne's continuity even applies, so i think many would agree that clarification is needed as to what his specific origin is (especially when you consider the most recent Crisis). But this thread doesn't specifically address this. I’m seeing whether or not Superman fans out there want a more suitably acceptable explanation for his powers. We know that the explanation for his powers has been changed twice already (i.e. from Gravity, to yellow star, to Solar battery), but any scientists among you (and there a lot on this specific site) believe that a change is necessary.

I don't believe anything to emphatic is needed, and i do think some relationship to the yellow sun explanation is needed, but surely its not too much to ask for a writer to specify that the solar radiation is nothing more than a stimulant, causing something in Superman's biological make-up to produce energy. Thus instead of absorbing his energy from the sun, sunlight merely catalyses his body to make his own.

What the real energy is really derived could involve modern-day exotic physics such as Quantum mechanic, Zero Point energy or even String Theory. In turn this would not only make fans more aware of bizarre concepts prominent in science today, it would also make Superman more plausible.

I know there are some people out there who don't see such an extreme change as necessary, yet in time I’m sure it would be generally accepted. I know there are those out there who agree with me!!!! With the current problems involving continuity, I think this a unique time in which to introduce something this radical, and yet logical.

Wow, for a new poster, your ideas seem REMARKABLY similar to some of the older, currently banned posters...

Going to disagree with you on this Yahman.

His origin is Birthright btw.

The idea of zero point energy has been discredited by most scientists for several years now

Originally posted by Validus
Going to disagree with you on this Yahman.

His origin is Birthright btw.

Been takling to Brusiek, and he doesn't agree. 😄

dcboards.warnerbros.com/web/thread.jspa?threadID=2000111153&tstart=0

Wont let me post the link, because Im a 'new' member. 🙂

Please don't get me banned to quickly, I wan't to make the night. 🙂

Originally posted by Endless Mike
The idea of zero point energy has been discredited by most scientists for several years now

String theory, and Quantum theory haven't though. 😄

The Birthright origin was revisited in the last issue of Supergirl. Even if some details end up getting retconned, it's still safe to say thats where the majority of ideas are coming from. Byrne's Man of Steel origin hasn't been on the table since Superman #200.

Re: Does Supermans powers need a new Origin ? ...

Originally posted by -a-m-a-n again
Well there have been a lot of concerns involving the complicity of the current continuity and whether or not Bryne's continuity even applies, so i think many would agree that clarification is needed as to what his specific origin is (especially when you consider the most recent Crisis). But this thread doesn't specifically address this. I’m seeing whether or not Superman fans out there want a more suitably acceptable explanation for his powers. We know that the explanation for his powers has been changed twice already (i.e. from Gravity, to yellow star, to Solar battery), but any scientists among you (and there a lot on this specific site) believe that a change is necessary.

I don't believe anything to emphatic is needed, and i do think some relationship to the yellow sun explanation is needed, but surely its not too much to ask for a writer to specify that the solar radiation is nothing more than a stimulant, causing something in Superman's biological make-up to produce energy. Thus instead of absorbing his energy from the sun, sunlight merely catalyses his body to make his own.

What the real energy is really derived could involve modern-day exotic physics such as Quantum mechanic, Zero Point energy or even String Theory. In turn this would not only make fans more aware of bizarre concepts prominent in science today, it would also make Superman more plausible.

I know there are some people out there who don't see such an extreme change as necessary, yet in time I’m sure it would be generally accepted. I know there are those out there who agree with me!!!! With the current problems involving continuity, I think this a unique time in which to introduce something this radical, and yet logical.

What up Yah.

Actually I've been wanting a change for the origin of Superman's powers for some time now.

I say it should stay mainly in the yellow sun department, but also introduce a few new concepts, (as you already listed). 🙂

Originally posted by Validus
The Birthright origin was revisited in the last issue of Supergirl. Even if some details end up getting retconned, it's still safe to say thats where the majority of ideas are coming from. Byrne's Man of Steel origin hasn't been on the table since Superman #200.

I haven't read it yet, but in what way ? 🙂

Re: Re: Does Supermans powers need a new Origin ? ...

Originally posted by Galan007
What up Yah.

Actually I've been wanting a change for Superman's powers for some time now.

I say it should stay mainly in the yellow sun department, but also introduce a few new concepts, (as you already listed). 🙂

Hows it going mate, Mister Master still being a pretentious as ever ? 🙂

How about Superman is just a 5th dimension imp with amnesia?!?!?

Originally posted by Magee
How about Superman is just a 5th dimension imp with amnesia?!?!?

...Or maybe he’s an Avatar of The Presence. 😱

Re: Re: Re: Does Supermans powers need a new Origin ? ...

Originally posted by -a-m-a-n again
Hows it going mate, Mister Master still being a pretentious as ever ? 🙂
Nothing ever changes, you know that.

As for this thread,

IMO Superman's powers or what he can do when the time calls for it, have gone far beyond the explination that it mostly comes from the yellow sun.

It just needs a little more "spice"

Originally posted by Magee
How about Superman is just a 5th dimension imp with amnesia?!?!?

I would hang with that, except it doesn't explain why all the other Kryptonians have powers near his level. 🙂

Originally posted by I watch Pokemon
...Or maybe he’s an Avatar of The Presence. 😱
Seeing as how if either he or Batman were to die, the Universe they existed in would experience an Armageddon of sorts....

Well how the hell do you classify that level of importance?

Re: Re: Re: Re: Does Supermans powers need a new Origin ? ...

Originally posted by Galan007
Nothing ever changes, you know that.

As for this thread,

IMO Superman's powers or what he can do when the time calls for it, have gone far beyond the explination that it mostly comes from the yellow sun.

It just needs a little more "spice"

I've been speaking to Kurt Brusiek recently and it seems like no-one at D.C. has the balls to do anything new. Dan Diddio and everyone seems very confused as to what is cannon and what isn't. I can't believe Im saying it, but Superman needs a new John Bryne, but maybe with a few less screws loose.

Hears Whirly, Avlon, Dvampire, crying at the thought ...

Originally posted by -a-m-a-n again
I would hang with that, except it doesn't explain why all the other Kryptonians have powers near his level. 🙂

What if all Kryptonians are just offshoots of 5D Imps?

Originally posted by Validus
What if all Kryptonians are just offshoots of 5D Imps?

No problem with that at all ....

Except it wouldn't really explain why there are so many imps, but hardly any Kryptonians. 🙂

Originally posted by -a-m-a-n again
No problem with that at all ....

Except it wouldn't really explain why there are so many imps, but hardly any Kryptonians. 🙂


What do you mean? The exploding planet thing still happened.

Originally posted by Validus
What do you mean? The exploding planet thing still happened.

Yess ... and they died in the process, yet there are loads of imps.

Paradox I sense.

Something of this order does need to used to retconn out the current Explanation, e.g. something on the lines of the Speed Force, Power Cosmic, or the Green Lantern Power battery. I.e. something no too scientific, but is something a bit more sci-fi than magic.