Originally posted by Ushgarak
France has a serious race issue problem indeed.In fact, for ALL the race problems the UK has- and I am not denying the severeness of any of it- it's mild compared to a lot of western nations, and minute compared to that in the US.
Do you have per capita stats within inner cities to back this up? This is a very general statement, what do you mean?
You could always get of your ass and do a tiny bit of research yourself, you know. For example, go and look at the differing rates and scale of race-releated riots between the UK, US and France.
Meanwhile, I am actually having an intelligent conversation with another poster who does not make anal demands every few seconds. You're not impressing anyone.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Your presumption for the thread is not evidenced, so don't play that silly game.
I at least gave a news report with statistical evidence from the Daily Telegraph. Later in the thread that gave figures.
Interestingly 62% of rapes in London have black or Pakistani suspects and 59% of those alledging the attacks are white to extend the discussion. According to the BBC in 2004.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/3397433.stm
Is this still all about money and crack?
Originally posted by Ushgarak
You could always get of your ass and do a tiny bit of research yourself, you know. For example, go and look at the differing rates and scale of race-releated riots between the UK, US and France.
Riots are only one indicator of problems. England has had riots but they will always be less pronounced in England due to the nature of the structure and demography of English cities. They are not a true indicator of anything except the societies structure is less able to control a populace.
You linked to a news report that simply re-iterated the same thing you said,m and which in turn quoted a third publication that mentioned the same thing you said; quite aside from it not being primary evidence in any case, none of the statistics offered actually helped support your basic statement.
It does not meet the criteria of evidence at all. So as I say, don't play that silly game with me; I really don't care about your trivial attempts to cause trouble.
Originally posted by mighty adam
raciest against ethnic people its sad i really can't care what happens with this forums from this point on
funny, since i only see 3 members with racially motivated thread posting trends. perhaps you are allowing a couple of parrots to speak for the majority? all it takes is one person, in fact, to spam a forum with a blatantly racist theme. i hardly see that as a means to damn everyone, or even anyone besides those individuals.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
You linked to a news report that simply re-iterated the same thing you said,m and which in turn quoted a third publication that mentioned the same thing you said; quite aside from it not being primary evidence in any case, none of the statistics offered actually helped support your basic statement.It does not meet the criteria of evidence at all. So as I say, don't play that silly game with me; I really don't care about your trivial attempts to cause trouble.
Whose trying to cause trouble. Don't you see the BBC as reputable?
Originally posted by Schecter
funny, since i only see 3 members with racially motivated thread posting trends. perhaps you are allowing a couple of parrots to speak for the majority? all it takes is one person, in fact, to spam a forum with a blatantly racist theme. i hardly see that as a means to damn everyone, or even anyone besides those individuals.
Yeah, what he said, thought everyone knew that.
So do you have any ideas how to help with those issues, Ush? Certainly every minority has to feel accepted and respected, but the contrary argument is often the lack of will to try to fit and accept the Western values. Personally I am in favor of "soft" measures, like social programs to help young people from minorities gain education and find a job, though the effort has to be made so those money are not wasted. I am not sure about measures based on punishment and restrictions, like harsh law and making heavy use of police- such methods should be kept to mare minimum. For example I don`t think that restricting the freedom of muslim female students in France to wear traditional clothes is a good idea- there is nothing actually harmful in those customs, and it seems to be only a unnecessary manifestation of strenght from the goverment.
Originally posted by Boots
Is this still all about money and crack?
Why o why do people never ever use application to gain knowledge?
Czarina talks a lot about the mentality of blacks. The part of her rants about surroundings has some validity but her version is quite extreme: You are what is around you.
Stuff like this is an issue of society. If you want to quote stats, then look this up:
- Poor areas have more crime.
- Poor people commit more crimes.
See where I'm going with this?
All of these things affect plenty of shit we take for granted and that makes it a societal problem rather that just an issue of a race. This is all nations of the world, but it is even more of a joke in capitalist democracies.
I think someone else can take it from here. I have other posts to make
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