Originally posted by manorastroman
ultimate cap is everything people claim 616 wolverine to be ('the best he is at what he does' and all that). cap is treated as basically the most dangerous man on Ultimate earth; he's fearless, physically perfect, has displayed fantastic martial arts talent, and he isn't above killing.
Agreed. I like ultimate Cap. He's a lot more intense than 616, and he's stronger. But that's about it. 616 Cap has got him on the speed feats and the skill feats.
And 616 Wolverine wouldn't be put down the same way Ultimate Wolverine was. Unless it was for plot purposes, I mean.
Originally posted by grey fox
Q : Why wouldn't the same tactic in Ultimate War work ?
Because cap used a large psychological advantage when he started telling Wolverine about his past ... 616 Wolverine remembers everything and wouldn't be thrown off by that.
The grenade trick from Ultimate Nightmare might work though.
Originally posted by manorastroman
ultimate cap is everything people claim 616 wolverine to be ('the best he is at what he does' and all that). cap is treated as basically the most dangerous man on Ultimate earth; he's fearless, physically perfect, has displayed fantastic martial arts talent, and he isn't above killing.
And Magneto tossed him away like a piece of trash.
Cap was high on super soldier serum and some other shit when he attacked Hulk in that comic. He would not be able to beat 616 wolverine unless he pumped himself up using drugs.
Originally posted by Scoobless
Because cap used a large psychological advantage when he started telling Wolverine about his past ... 616 Wolverine remembers everything and wouldn't be thrown off by that.The grenade trick from Ultimate Nightmare might work though.
I MEANT the grenade trick.
I thought it was in Ult War ?
Originally posted by llagrok
And Magneto tossed him away like a piece of trash.Cap was high on super soldier serum and some other shit when he attacked Hulk in that comic. He would not be able to beat 616 wolverine unless he pumped himself up using drugs.
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magneto>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wolverine or captain america.
moreover...cap is ALWAYS high on super soldier serum.
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Originally posted by Fanboy
http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cap3yz5.jpghttp://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cap4zv8.jpg
Yeah like making Hulk bleed with out his claws wait oops.
First things first........here's the rest of the U.Cap vs U.Hulk fight which you seem to forget.
http://img63.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ult05p15ia6.jpg
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/3637/ult05p16cf4.jpg Showing U.Cap stood no chance, as U.Thor had to save him.
Second here they meet again, this was after U.Hulk took a beat down from Ult Thor, mind you. Then Ult Hulk goes after ult Cap. Lets see how he does.
http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ult05p21di0.jpg
Treats him like nothing if you ask me.
On making ult Hulks nose bleed big deal, sure its somewhat impressive. But even 616 Cap has made Thunderball bleed with a punch.
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avgrs77200wy.jpg
To affect King Thor(with circumstances like U.Cap vs U.Hulk)
http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page0185sf.jpg
Does not mean 616 Cap will defeat Logan. His healing is way too crazy now a days plus with unbreakable bones. Logan recently took two falls from space to crash on earth as he healed back and was fine.
Wolverine 7-8/10
He set them back 60 years live with it. He has also defeated Ultimate Wolverine and 616 Wolverine being beaten by Molly Hayes helps yours?
I live with it LOL. He defeated Ult Wolv with a machine gun second fight a gernade. 616 Logan laughs at stuff like that. and notice Ult Cap didn't want to engage him in close combat.
So Ult Logan is 616 Logan is that what your saying. Thats nonsensical logic at best.
Look both Ult Cap and Logan can take punishment only one has regeneration. Only one has unbreakable bones.
But only one can actually cut off limbs and real slicing. Yes ulti Cap can decapitate too with his shield but wont work on 616 Wolverine since A. Unbreakable bones....and B. Heals like a mother.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
I live with it LOL. He defeated Ult Wolv with a machine gun second fight a gernade. 616 Logan laughs at stuff like that. and notice Ult Cap didn't want to engage him in close combat.So Ult Logan is 616 Logan is that what your saying. Thats nonsensical logic at best.
Nope it's not logic, 616 Wolverine didn't laugh at Molly knocking him flat. Hey didn't Cyclops hold his own with him hand to hand in the Prometeus arc? Oh and all the times Cable has etc. etc. etc.
Nope it's not logic, 616 Wolverine didn't laugh at Molly knocking him flat. Hey didn't Cyclops hold his own with him hand to hand in the Prometeus arc? Oh and all the times Cable has etc. etc. etc.
Oh so now your cherry picking showings. What about the group of humans that were owning Ulti Cap. What about Nighthawk kicking about Ult Cap.
I can play that game as well. LOL Prometeus arc you do know Logan was mentally raped before he fought Cyclops.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Oh so now your cherry picking showings. What about the group of humans that were owning Ulti Cap. What about Nighthawk kicking about Ult Cap.I can play that game as well. LOL Prometeus arc you do know Logan was mentally raped before he fought Cyclops.
Nighthawk didn't kick him around the way Shag Chi and Iron Fist both kicked Logan around. He was in a beserker rage when he fought Cyclops.
