Originally posted by Soljer
Shang Chi? Logan owned Shang Chi within a couple pages. He ended with two claws around Shang Chi's throat, threatening to pop the third.I know Iron Fist's taken it to Wolverine before, but when did Shang own him?
I think your thinking of Shang Chis last meaning with Logan and not his first one. It was way back in the eighties. Funniest one was when Logan fell on the sword fighting DD.
Originally posted by Soljer
Well, last I checked, newer showings trump older ones considering that characters evolve and change. They aren't static.
Well that argument is a bit like th one, "who wins Chuck Liddell or Randy Couture", it depends on how they fight although usually one would say Liddell both have won. Exactly they are both not static. Wolverine can on one day lose to Molly Hayes, Cyclops, Daredevil and on another cut Thanos or Thor.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Wolverine beats his ass.And I don't think Ultimate Cap is above 616 in anything. Besides ruthlessness.
And strength, he is much stronger than 616 you realise 😬 oh and speed, he's much faster, oh and endurance he has much greater endurance. Oh, and durability, almost forgot that, he halo jumps without a chute.
Originally posted by zozo_yoyo_xoxoUlt cap hasnt shown t9o be faster, more durable, or better endurance....and 616 dont use no chutes niether
Well that argument is a bit like th one, "who wins Chuck Liddell or Randy Couture", it depends on how they fight although usually one would say Liddell both have won. Exactly they are both not static. Wolverine can on one day lose to Molly Hayes, Cyclops, Daredevil and on another cut Thanos or Thor.And strength, he is much stronger than 616 you realise 😬 oh and speed, he's much faster, oh and endurance he has much greater endurance. Oh, and durability, almost forgot that, he halo jumps without a chute.
Originally posted by zozo_yoyo_xoxocap hasnt used a chute in his last 2 series.
So you admit he's stronger, everything else is proportionally Superhuman. Capt is only the best a human can be at everything. Cap uses a chute most of the time.
and yes ULT cap is stronger, but nobody knows how fast he is... 616 has too many feats to outclass him.
Originally posted by King KAM
cap hasnt used a chute in his last 2 series.and yes ULT cap is stronger, but nobody knows how fast he is... 616 has too many feats to outclass him.
You say this but this argument doesn't really work. Superman prime doesn't have many feats but we all think he could beat Superman.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
First things first........here's the rest of the U.Cap vs U.Hulk fight which you seem to forget.http://img63.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ult05p15ia6.jpg
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/3637/ult05p16cf4.jpg Showing U.Cap stood no chance, as U.Thor had to save him.Second here they meet again, this was after U.Hulk took a beat down from Ult Thor, mind you. Then Ult Hulk goes after ult Cap. Lets see how he does.
http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ult05p21di0.jpg
Treats him like nothing if you ask me.On making ult Hulks nose bleed big deal, sure its somewhat impressive. But even 616 Cap has made Thunderball bleed with a punch.
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avgrs77200wy.jpg
To affect King Thor(with circumstances like U.Cap vs U.Hulk)
http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page0185sf.jpgDoes not mean 616 Cap will defeat Logan. His healing is way too crazy now a days plus with unbreakable bones. Logan recently took two falls from space to crash on earth as he healed back and was fine.
Wolverine 7-8/10
http://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page0164hx.jpg
http://img272.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page0156lp.jpg
Yeah all that happened because of the good doctor strange.
Originally posted by Soljer
My question; how the hell do you HALO jump without a chute.You know what the LO part stands for, right? If there's no chute, there's no O.
Therefore, he can't HALO jump...I spose he could HA jump.
But that doesn't sound nearly as cool.
😂 Good point.
And without a chute wouldn't a person be virtually liquified by the impact? I mean how far above normal human is Cap?
Nighthawk didn't kick him around the way Shag Chi and Iron Fist both kicked Logan around. He was in a beserker rage when he fought Cyclops.
Wrong on both counts. Wolverine had the advantage on Shang-Chi. Ironfist had the advantage but his hits were not even hurting Wolverine as Danny noticed that as well.
Yeah all that happened because of the good doctor strange.
And if you notice in my post above its states it had circumstances as well. Funny thing is even with Strange taking away the Odin force. Thor was still powerful enough to defeat Hulk,Thing, and Strange. And showed his eyeblasts were powerfull enough to go through Cap's shield.
I think your thinking of Shang Chis last meaning with Logan and not his first one. It was way back in the eighties. Funniest one was when Logan fell on the sword fighting DD.
Logan and Shang have only had one battle. Logan on the sword stopped fighting on purpose as he regained his correct mind and then teleported away as he helped and warn Daredevil on what was going on.
Originally posted by complexbrother
you Wolverine fans are funny (btw I am a slight fan too) you can set Logan up to fight anyone from the Shroud to a Celestial and have Wolvie win. no matter how outclassed or outfought, or outthought he is.
They are hilarious. I like Wolverine but all they do is ignore the bad showings. They are rabid. 😆
zozo yo yo what ever the hell your name is. Please do not lie. Shange-chi has only fought wolverine once and it ended with wolverine kicking the shit out of him.
Wolverine fought both cyclopes and shang-chi before his characters development. He was not even at the timke consider a master fighter. That was later added into his character, becuase his character was un developed.
Oh not to mention wolverine was beating the crap out of a guy who pwned both luke cage and IF.
Originally posted by capt it upwahh wahhh wahh....stop your crying.
zozo yo yo what ever the hell your name is. Please do not lie. Shange-chi has only fought wolverine once and it ended with wolverine kicking the shit out of him.Wolverine fought both cyclopes and shang-chi before his characters development. He was not even at the timke consider a master fighter. That was later added into his character, becuase his character was un developed.
Oh not to mention wolverine was beating the crap out of a guy who pwned both luke cage and IF.
And ult cap iunno.... we never really seen him lose much... he is definatley superhuman
