Originally posted by Validus
Did you read the Superman tie in books? They were in a total stalemate.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
DC has repeatedly given all kryptonians the same powers. Including Superspeed.
So to your mind, any solar powered kryptonian can pull off a speedblitz, even if they haven't done so yet?
Huh.
PG isn't a simple cut and dry case though.
She's not particularly impressive, except for her cup size.
And it's debateable that she's even stronger than the normal showings of BlackBolt at all.
Originally posted by UniOmni
So to your mind, any solar powered kryptonian can pull off a speedblitz, even if they haven't done so yet?Huh.
PG isn't a simple cut and dry case though.
She's not particularly impressive, except for her cup size.
And it's debateable that she's even stronger than the normal showings of BlackBolt at all.
Well see. She was already Stronger than his normal lvls when she was just an atlantean. She was stronger than aquaman who is around 80 tons. I'd wager as the leader of the JS, well see some feats. Stick around. I"m not giving BB the majority knowing that he isn't as fast or strong or as durable as the average kryptonian.
But what you don't seem to get, is that she's not the average kryptonian.
She's not as fast, strong or durable as the average Kryptonian either.
And for someone who fights the Sphinx, Thor, Hulk, Gladiator, Ikaris and others and doesn't seem to be physically outclassed, her being stronger than class 80 Drippy means squat.
What's she gonna do?
Punch him? He's been hit hardeer.
HV him? If he takes the blast, which i'd seriously doubt he'd be written to do, ehh.
She's done nothing exceptional with hv to tell me it'd be a deciding factor.
And her durability isn't leagues above his. Read JSA. See how she gets manhandled by true top tiers.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
They should be able to.Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Especially when people who are very similar have the feat.
Rumsfield? Is that you? 😘
That would be a crappy stance to debate from, in all seriousness.
That'd be like me saying Surfer can make a star go nova, since Nova did, and she wasn't anywhere near as experienced with the PC as him.
Unless they proved the ability on panel, it's reaching to try and give them potential feats.
PG hasn't shown the ability to speedblitz, i'm not gonna give it to her.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Rumsfield? Is that you? 😘
😄
Originally posted by UniOmni
That would be a crappy stance to debate from, in all seriousness.
It's also a logical fallacy if used as an argument. I was just using it to point out that since she is Kryptonian it's not unreasonable to say that she has powers that Kryptonians have.
Originally posted by UniOmni
That'd be like me saying Surfer can make a star go nova, since Nova did, and she wasn't anywhere near as experienced with the PC as him.Unless they proved the ability on panel, it's reaching to try and give them potential feats.
PG hasn't shown the ability to speedblitz, i'm not gonna give it to her.
The way DC has desgined Kryptonians its hardly stretching to say that she has superspeed IMO.
From a position as literal as yours it's impossible to argue that characters with superstrength can lift any weight except for the exact ones they have been shown to 😛
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
😄It's also a logical fallacy if used as an argument. I was just using it to point out that since she is Kryptonian it's not unreasonable to say that she has powers that Kryptonians have.
The way DC has desgined Kryptonians its hardly stretching to say that she has superspeed IMO.
From a position as literal as yours it's impossible to argue that characters with superstrength can lift any weight except for the exact ones they have been shown to 😛
See, but the thing you're doing is mistaking a powerset, with power applications.
BB has superspeed himself, since he flies pretty much the same way Superman and his clan do, by manipulating the gravitons around themselves.
He's done a move that would fall under the category of speedblitz once that i recall, but he's done it at least.
Power Girl, not so much.
I don't try to argue from a point of rigid literal showings, but i also try not to give where they haven't proved.
BB controls electrons, and has manipulated minature blackholes in combat before.
That doesn't mean i can say he'd open a minature blackhole in his hand and absorb all the hv she pours out at him.
And you've also got to remember, that Karen isn't a regular kryptonian.
She's not anywhere near as powerful, fast or durable.
She has a record of consistent underachievement.
He's got a record of consistent good showings, and i personally can't wait for SW 05, where he takes on Sentry.
Originally posted by UniOmni
See, but the thing you're doing is mistaking a powerset, with power applications.BB has superspeed himself, since he flies pretty much the same way Superman and his clan do, by manipulating the gravitons around themselves.
He's done a move that would fall under the category of speedblitz once that i recall, but he's done it at least.
Power Girl, not so much.
I don't try to argue from a point of rigid literal showings, but i also try not to give where they haven't proved.
BB controls electrons, and has manipulated minature blackholes in combat before.
That doesn't mean i can say he'd open a minature blackhole in his hand and absorb all the hv she pours out at him.
And you've also got to remember, that Karen isn't a regular kryptonian.
She's not anywhere near as powerful, fast or durable.
She has a record of consistent underachievement.
He's got a record of consistent good showings, and i personally can't wait for SW 05, where he takes on Sentry.
And I can't wait for her as the leader of the Justice Society to kick some ass. You'd be seriously not thinking if you think they are gonna have her as a lame on such a powerful team.
BB wins.
Oh, and I'm actually sort of cringing at the thought of him fighting Sentry next month... in the past years or so, BB has been downgraded from a high level matter manipulator with complete utter control over electrons and a quasi-sonic scream that can shatter planets.... to Banshee on vocal steroids.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
She's a kryptonian. In the history of DC, they have NEVER let any Kryptonian be lame. So much for your wishful thinking. Even the Dogs are uber.