The fact that she happens to be a kryptonian seems to be all that Nvr is going on, despite the fact that she's never even been truely top tier in showing.
Her durability is laughable, her speed is nondescript in the big picture(speedblitz my black ass) her strength isn't anything beyond Thing, and her hv is bottom of the barrel.
I don't see what Nvr sees, besides the bloodline.
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
BB wins.Oh, and I'm actually sort of cringing at the thought of him fighting Sentry next month... in the past years or so, BB has been downgraded from a high level matter manipulator with complete utter control over electrons and a quasi-sonic scream that can shatter planets.... to Banshee on vocal steroids.
He still has control over electrons, as seen in the mini Jenkins did a couple of years ago.
They mentioned him being able to disintegrate people with a thought.
And in Illuminati, he recently tore open a hole in reality with his voice, by way of some machine or something.
Or he powered a machine that tore open a hole in reality with his voice, i gotta reread the issue.
For Vally - BB screams and reality tears open.
A guardian has to sacrifice his life to get the same effect.
BB>Average smurf
Originally posted by UniOmniI believe what happened was that the machine channeled the force of his voice into one concentrated area, or somesuch.
He still has control over electrons, as seen in the mini Jenkins did a couple of years ago.They mentioned him being able to disintegrate people with a thought.
And in Illuminati, he recently tore open a hole in reality with his voice, by way of some machine or something.
Or he powered a machine that tore open a hole in reality with his voice, i gotta reread the issue.
For Vally - BB screams and reality tears open.
A guardian has to sacrifice his life to get the same effect.BB>Average smurf
Despite that, BB used to be able to turn a boulder into an antimatter bomb on a whim. Now he's a guy with a couple tricks and some strong vocals. Believe me, if a writer who gives his history some credit decides to write him half-decently, then I'll be the first to jump for joy. But I can't say that I'm not apprehensive...
Originally posted by the DarkoneHe can also create constructs, solidify air, water, and anything else, cause the ground to melt like butter, hypnotise people, take control over people's actions, take control of miniature black holes, and more.
BB has defeated hulk twice, Gladiator twice, beat Ikaris, man handles the thing. BB can increase his strength or he uses his outrages powers, antimatter, quasi-scream, electron manipulation, psionic powers, transmutation, master blow. BB wins the majority.
BB wins this without too much trouble.
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
I believe what happened was that the machine channeled the force of his voice into one concentrated area, or somesuch.Despite that, BB used to be able to turn a boulder into an antimatter bomb on a whim. Now he's a guy with a couple tricks and some strong vocals. Believe me, if a writer who gives his history some credit decides to write him half-decently, then I'll be the first to jump for joy. But I can't say that I'm not apprehensive...
I honestly doubt we'll be seeing him use antimatter freely anymore in the future.
If BB took all his older showings, and his great record(he's got losses like everyone else, but not many, kinda like Superman) and went into the DCU, he'd be premiere elite material easily.
He's just not as popular as other characters tho, and like Darkseid, he's gone from great versatility to a one trick character, and if that trick fails, the writer gives up on him.
Dreaming of a bygone era.
True, he does appear to be more of a DC-esque character, but I'd like to see a couple more of those in Marvel, personally. I guess that's just how it works, though.
Well, in the Inhuman's maxi-series, it was said that he had never been defeated, and the writer specifically adressed (and retconned) all of his major losses to wins, as well as, I believe, addressed his major victories.
Post that, I don't recall what losses he had. Obviously we can expect to see some in the upcoming World War Hulk series, however.
To Vally, i already admitted my recollection of the comic was hazy. Smurf set it right. LOSER!!
And to SC, why would we assume she can blitz him when she hasn't shown the ability, but he has?
And he already handled a blitz of sorts from Ikaris, so i wouldn't count on that.
Yes, i have to steal all your joy from debating, cuz i love to lick the tears of the wounded!
Originally posted by UniOmni
And to SC, why would we assume she can blitz him when she hasn't shown the ability, but he has?
(see: the responses I gave you before)
Originally posted by UniOmni
And he already handled a blitz of sorts from Ikaris, so i wouldn't count on that.
Why didn't you bring that up before?
Hastur? What's that?
I'd like to go and say that I agree with Nvr about PG speedblitzing..........., and the fact that she's kryptonian says she should be able to.........but she does have some bad showings and she's definitely not equal to say, Kara Zor-El. I'm not sure how well BB defends against the blitz.
I don't know if she can take the scream mainly. 😕
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Hastur? What's that?
🙁 And I thought that was a pretty good joke too.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Hastur? What's that?I'd [b]like
to go and say that I agree with Nvr about PG speedblitzing..........., and the fact that she's kryptonian says she should be able to.........but she does have some bad showings and she's definitely not equal to say, Kara Zor-El. I'm not sure how well BB defends against the blitz.I don't know if she can take the scream mainly. 😕 [/B]
Hey trickster. There are a couple of other stone faced blue grey guys. Greyven, Darkseid's other son has been doing a couple of nasty things lateley, and Blaster is blue grey too. He can even hurt the eternals with his powers. 😛 Kara doesn't need to survive the scream. She just needs to move fast enough to get behind him and pull that antenna out of his head.