Where does "The Crunch" come into the origin of the Marvel Universe?

interesting set of theories but actually from a real world point of view, the universe isnt gonna collide with itself becuase that would imply that there is another area of "spherical space" that all the matter and energy in our universe is trapped in...which there isnt. i know its tempting to look at it like that tho...say for example, if you sail from australia going west eventually you'll start end up where you started but approach from the east thats a simplistic view of course ut we shouldnt think that way.

leading scientists approximate that the universe is expanding at a million miles per hour in all directions. that's something reminiscent of an explosion, hence the big bang thoery. they also hypothesize that once all that matter reach a breaking point its not gonna dissipate an fade away( energy cant be destroyed and all that), but rather its gonna coalsece, and fall back inward on it self.

meaning that since all stars have a shelf life, and they all have to go nova one day all that energy of all the stars whenever they feel like burning out will cuase the universe to implode on itslef, and all that energy is gonna collect to a singularity, and theoretically cuase another big bang and create another universe.

so this crunch thing is cool for marvel for the time being, i like this idea better the negative zone being our mirror opposite and the more we expand the more thier "space" decreases rather than just another dimension occupying the same space but just vibrating at different frequencies. DC pretty much wrote the book on that bullshit already, even though the Ultimate UNiverse depicts the multiverse being younger universes stacked a top older ones as thier ages progresses and thats cool too, but i wanna see how far marvel takes this new idea tho, if and how the PF and the power primordial is gonna get thrown out of the window

Originally posted by manjaro
interesting set of theories but actually from a real world point of view, the universe isnt gonna collide with itself becuase that would imply that there is another area of "spherical space" that all the matter and energy in our universe is trapped in...which there isnt. i know its tempting to look at it like that tho...say for example, if you sail from australia going west eventually you'll start end up where you started but approach from the east thats a simplistic view of course ut we shouldnt think that way.

leading scientists approximate that the universe is expanding at a million miles per hour in all directions. that's something reminiscent of an explosion, hence the big bang thoery. they also hypothesize that once all that matter reach a breaking point its not gonna dissipate an fade away( energy cant be destroyed and all that), but rather its gonna coalsece, and fall back inward on it self.

meaning that since all stars have a shelf life, and they all have to go nova one day all that energy of all the stars whenever they feel like burning out will cuase the universe to implode on itslef, and all that energy is gonna collect to a singularity, and theoretically cuase another big bang and create another universe.

so this crunch thing is cool for marvel for the time being, i like this idea better the negative zone being our mirror opposite and the more we expand the more thier "space" decreases rather than just another dimension occupying the same space but just vibrating at different frequencies. DC pretty much wrote the book on that bullshit already, even though the Ultimate UNiverse depicts the multiverse being younger universes stacked a top older ones as thier ages progresses and thats cool too, but i wanna see how far marvel takes this new idea tho, if and how the PF and the power primordial is gonna get thrown out of the window

Sorry most of this is wrong. Not all stars do go Nova due to not having enough mass. Sol our Sun will become Helium and then eventually several more transformations down the line iron.

The Universe is expanding. "If" it continues to expand or not depends on Dark matter and Dark energy, and yes space time is considered a type of bubble. Sorry to burst your ballon there.

well i dont exactly have a PHD in astrophysics, and quantum mechanics so no need to get all smarmy about it. all stars do have a shelf life, all stars will eventually run out of energy, whether or not they will go nova is anyone's guess. my point was to illustrate that scientists think that all that energy is gonna implode, rather than dissipate. i wasnt getting up on a soap box or anything. well the bubble thing is one way to look at it. maybe there are multitudes of bubbles out there that contain universe and the space in between each individual bubble is just pure dark matter

Our sun will eventually run out of hydrogen to fuse in the core, then become a red giant, and eventually collapse into a white dwarf, which will then eventually cool down into a brown dwarf.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Our sun will eventually run out of hydrogen to fuse in the core, then become a red giant, and eventually collapse into a white dwarf, which will then eventually cool down into a brown dwarf.

Did you miss where I said "red giant"?

Originally posted by Galan007
But before this, our Sun will become a Giant Star, (fortunately this isn't estimated to happen for at least another 5 billion years or so).

By which time we'll have crashed into Andromeda.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Did you miss where I said "red giant"?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
By which time we'll have crashed into Andromeda.

Originally posted by Galan007
Is that supposed to happen within the next 5 billion years?

I was watching some Discovery chanel thing a while back and they said it was going to happen in about 3 billion years or something. But don't quote me on that.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I was watching some Discovery chanel thing a while back and they said it was going to happen in about 3 billion years or something. But don't quote me on that.

yeah we'll crash into andromeda before our sun red giants but the discovery piece said we would pass thru like a ghost, cuz gravity would prevent the planets from smashing into each other...or something like that

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
By which time we'll have crashed into Andromeda.

Originally posted by manjaro
yeah we'll crash into andromeda before our sun red giants but the discovery piece said we would pass thru like a ghost, cuz gravity would prevent the planets from smashing into each other...or something like that

as a matter of fact it will. the stars of andromeda much like ours are still milions of miles apart from each other, so i guess the fact that there is such a big gulf between planets would play a role in it preventing that from happeening, but gravity will unravel all the star's orbit of both galaxies and result in a new, twisted shaped ,super galaxy.

i want on panel proff!! any scans of these feats!?
fanboys!!
its all intresting stuff but no one realy knows what can and will happen 3 billion years from now.
the crunch is proly just some force/energy that is used by what ever sentiance is cunducting the big bang to cycle said universe

Originally posted by manjaro
as a matter of fact it will. the stars of andromeda much like ours are still milions of miles apart from each other, so i guess the fact that there is such a big gulf between planets would play a role in it preventing that from happeening, but gravity will unravel all the star's orbit of both galaxies and result in a new, twisted shaped ,super galaxy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Crunch