TOAA and Presence are overrated

Started by Thanos_THOTU3 pages

Re: Re: Re: TOAA and Presence are overrated

Originally posted by Galan007
hmm

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1512/spectre6101fq0.jpg
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/6717/spectre6102do2.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2651/spectre6103iz7.jpg
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/4032/spectre6104vw0.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8225/spectre6105bt0.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2961/spectre6106fo2.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4919/spectre6107ct1.jpg
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/5435/spectre6108qv0.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5574/spectre6109od9.jpg
credit goes to Skeets.


Isnt that Yahweh though?

galan, in the second scan, god asked a question, meaning he is not omniscient😉

Originally posted by Einer
galan, in the second scan, god asked a question, meaning he is not omniscient😉

It's called sarcasm ...
But yeah the story is a bit flawed.

Re: Re: Re: Re: TOAA and Presence are overrated

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Isnt that Yahweh though?
Yahweh = Vertigo.

Those scans are from Spectre's own series = DC

sarcasm? there is no evidence he was sarcastic, and he only noticed spectre was about to attack him, he huh-ed in a surprised tone before he countered

Originally posted by Einer
sarcasm? there is no evidence he was sarcastic, and he only noticed spectre was about to attack him, he huh-ed in a surprised tone before he countered

It's hard to explain, but there isnt possible to prove either way.

i know what you mean, but i think he is only semi-omniscient

think about it:

a omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresence character would not HAVE any character, only be a semi-living force, cause two omniscient characters will always be the same.

why? they know logic as well as each other and have exactly the same knowledge.

Originally posted by Einer
galan, in the second scan, god asked a question, meaning he is not omniscient😉
Think outside the box Judge.

You're trying to say that an omniscient being is forbidden from asking questions.

Just because someone knows the outcome of any given event, does not mean they can't ask another being a question so this being can figure things out for themselves.

And those scans are more symoblism than anything.

The true Presence would not have a physical being. To do so is to demote him to "earthly" status.

Originally posted by Einer
think about it:

a omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresence character would not HAVE any character, only be a semi-living force, cause two omniscient characters will always be the same.

why? they know logic as well as each other and have exactly the same knowledge.


Again, don't try to define what you cannot comperhend.
Could a omnipotent being create a being more powerful than himself?
If not he's not omnipotent, if he can then he isnt omnipotent either.

But I belive in my hierarchy:

Marvel - DC

Tier 0
Pre-retcon Amalgam Brothers

Tier 1
The-One-Above-All
Presence
Pre-retcon Beyonder? (avatar of the editor)
Thanos with the Heart

Originally posted by Galan007
Think outside the box Judge.

You're trying to say that an omniscient being is forbidden from asking questions.

Just because someone knows the outcome of any given event, does not mean they can't ask another being a question so this being can figure things out for themselves.

And those scans are more symoblism than anything.

The true Presence would not have a physical being. To do so is to demote him to "earthly" status.

This is not the judge, actually, the judge would have a avatar and a signature by now.

just who is this judge i seem to be blamed to be?

but then again, galan has a point, he can ask questions, but check the scan where Spectre attacked Presence. He huh-ed and looked surprised.

Beyonder and Thanos have personality, they cant be setted in same rank as Presence and TOAA. Thanos would just MAKE death like him, otherwise😉 or CREATING lifes for her to live on, without any actual life to take life from😉

Originally posted by Einer
just who is this judge i seem to be blamed to be?

nvm.

but then again, galan has a point, he can ask questions, but check the scan where Spectre attacked Presence. He huh-ed and looked surprised.

He can act anyway he wants ...

Beyonder and Thanos have personality, they cant be setted in same rank as Presence and TOAA. Thanos would just MAKE death like him, otherwise😉 or CREATING lifes for her to live on, without any actual life to take life from😉

... Personality has nothing to do with power ...
The list was my version of top powers in Marvel/DC.

no nvm, i wanna know who i am accused of being.

you have a point, but he should only use his powers in needed situations, not like this crap

and if he is omnipresence, it HAS. him and TOAA is COMPLETELY identical in personality, as they know everything, knows about wrong, right, good, evil, feelings, emotions, general knowledge, and everything that decides personality. they have the same personality because of that.

Originally posted by Einer
no nvm, i wanna know who i am accused of being.

you have a point, but he should only use his powers in needed situations, not like this crap

and if he is omnipresence, it HAS. him and TOAA is COMPLETELY identical in personality, as they know everything, knows about wrong, right, good, evil, feelings, emotions, general knowledge, and everything that decides personality. they have the same personality because of that.


Yo hippie, add [email protected] and we'll talk it out.

A omnipotent being wouldent need to know what's wrong/right ect. Because what he wanted would be wrong/right.

no reason to call me a hippie, and i dont uses messenger, sorry
and you have a point

Allowed the brothers to exist?

It's possible that TOAA/Presence ARE the Brothers.

TOAA and the Presence never even appeared in Marvel vs. DC with the Brothers.

The Brothers were later retconned to be below the LT anyway.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Not if we go by non canon material.

Umm... you do realize that those comics happened way before the HOTU arc... don't you?

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Umm... you do realize that those comics happened way before the HOTU arc... don't you?

Yes, but that was not the only time The-One-Above-All's power was witnessed, what about the creation of the Omniverse?