darthgoober's Amalgam Tournament First Round Draft Thread

Started by Newjak20 pages

Originally posted by Scoobless
Well ... DG did say that as long as the characters are considered </= Iron Man they were fine and there's no limits to the meshing caps.

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Deadpool and Hydroman are definitely <<< Iron Man

It could be argued that overall they aren't above the caps but that there individual ability is. Deadpool can heal from goo that seems to put his ability far above aynthign Ironman level could do. Samething with Hydroman and Sandman.

Plus a killibilty level has been used in other tournaments even if the person isn't over the levels. I don't see a problem with it being in this one

Well if an official "killability" rule gets put in place I wont have a problem with it.

Are you for or against a killability limit?

Depends on what it entails.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Depends on what it entails.
Well I wouldn't mind getting rid of phasing all together and have healing factors kind of limited in some way.

Maybe for people like Hydroman and Sandman saying that they can not leave their human forms for the most aprt. Think Reed Richard strecthing and that if they blown to pieces they cannot reform. and things that would kill normal Human like Beheading or being cut in two would still kill them. And things like having limbs cut off and stuff like that they could reform or heal from.

The samethign could go for healing factors.

It seems like a lot but I think it is pretty reasonable

What do you think?

I think there should be limits but I don't want to ban any powers outright.

Maybe you could allow Vision his phasing but ban his phased attack where he partially solidifies inside someone .... even though it's not a fool proof power as it is.

I say boo for nixing healing factors. Neither Wolverine nor Deadpool are Iron-Man level because of them, and I think it's all part of good power meshing to utilize or not utilize their power.

Hydroman and Sandman are a different story - they're damn near Iceman-levels of unkillable, assuming that you're in an arena environment.

Originally posted by Scoobless
I think there should be limits but I don't want to ban any powers outright.

Maybe you could allow Vision his phasing but ban his phased attack where he partially solidifies inside someone .... even though it's not a fool proof power as it is.

Phasing is a hard one to guage in my opinion. It isn't like Hydroman or Sandman where you could just say they have to maintain a kind of Reed Richard type ability to stretch and can't go beyond that.

I mean with Phasing you kind of can't be hit at all and if someone can stay phased throughout the fight like say Kitty Pride then it doesn't matter what the other character can do you can't fight back.

But I'm not completely against allowing phasing in but I do say with people like Hydroman and Sandman and with healing factors like Deadpool and Wolverine limiting is needed.

Originally posted by Soljer
I say boo for nixing healing factors. Neither Wolverine nor Deadpool are Iron-Man level because of them, and I think it's all part of good power meshing to utilize or not utilize their power.

Hydroman and Sandman are a different story - they're damn near Iceman-levels of unkillable, assuming that you're in an arena environment.

The ability may not put him on Ironman level because it doesn't increase there other abilities but as a sole power it alone could be above the Ironman level especially when you can't die or hea; from a skeleton or a puddle of goo like Wolverine and Deadpool.

There are quite a lot of characters who can phase and all of them have been hit while phased at some point or other ... there are definitely ways to get to them.

I do agree that Hydro-Man level durability is a little too much though.

Originally posted by Scoobless
There are quite a lot of characters who can phase and all of them have been hit while phased at some point or other ... there are definitely ways to get to them.

I do agree that Hydro-Man level durability is a little too much though.

Yeah but how often does it happen enough to say that anyone could do it. I mean honestly if there are only like one or two people you could draft who could hit a phased person then I think it should be banned.

By the way if we are going to get rid of Hydroman Durability then shouldn't Healing Factors go because in essence it can give people almost Hydroman esqe durability in their own right.

There are normally limits on healing for tourneys.

I,e ... opponent can recover from bullet damage (or equivelant) within a few minutes (5) but lost limbs will take an hour to replace, Decapitation = death.

That sort of thing.

Originally posted by Scoobless
There are normally limits on healing for tourneys.

I,e ... opponent can recover from bullet damage (or equivelant) within a few minutes (5) but lost limbs will take an hour to replace, Decapitation = death.

That sort of thing.

That is what I was suggesting from the get go limiting healing.

I'm fairly sure that that's why Plastic Man was banned from the start.

Originally posted by Scoobless
I'm fairly sure that that's why Plastic Man was banned from the start.
Yeah I'm pretty sure thats why.

scooby doo licks ass

Originally posted by G-Judge333
scooby doo licks ass
I hope your not referring to my sig because its not Scooby Doo its Hong Kong Phooey to call him by that mut of a dog is insulting mhm

Originally posted by Newjak
I hope your not referring to my sig because its not Scooby Doo its Hong Kong Phooey to call him by that mut of a dog is insulting mhm

it aint scooby doo?? thought it was him in gi😄

Originally posted by Newjak
I hope your not referring to my sig because its not Scooby Doo its Hong Kong Phooey to call him by that mut of a dog is insulting mhm

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Originally posted by Newjak
Phasing is a hard one to guage in my opinion. It isn't like Hydroman or Sandman where you could just say they have to maintain a kind of Reed Richard type ability to stretch and can't go beyond that.

I mean with Phasing you kind of can't be hit at all and if someone can stay phased throughout the fight like say Kitty Pride then it doesn't matter what the other character can do you can't fight back.

But I'm not completely against allowing phasing in but I do say with people like Hydroman and Sandman and with healing factors like Deadpool and Wolverine limiting is needed.

I agree with kicking Hydro and Sandman for killability. but if you take away phasing from Vision, there's no point to having the character. Phased characters have been hit, but if you picked someone who can't hit him, isn't that just good planning on whoever picked Vision's part? 😖hifty:

And you absolutely have to keep the partial phased attack. But ban the posession power. It can be countered and there are ways to stop almost any kind of attack. If you ban something because it's a really good plan, then this tournament will become a joke.