Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Not because god isn't a she, but because god has a sex in the first place.I just find it funny when someone says "God is way beyond phenomenons and things deeper and more accurate" and then calls this god a "he". 😆
I refering to Him as He is refered to in the Bible. Or did you forget the quote in Genesis,: "Let us make man in our image and likeness"
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
1. Provable has nothing to do with anything.
So what reason do you have to believe what you said?
2. I didn't even know you had a point.
It was pretty clear:
"Just because god refers to himself with a male pronoun doesn't mean he has a gender"
How is fining what you said to be funny, petty?
Maybe it's just me but I find it to be rude when you respond to an honest answer with nothing other than a laughing smiley. You might as well just have wrote "that's a laughable thing to say."
Originally posted by Ytse
So what reason do you have to believe what you said?It was pretty clear:
"Just because god refers to himself with a male pronoun doesn't mean he has a gender"
Maybe it's just me but I find it to be rude when you respond to an honest answer with nothing other than a laughing smiley. You might as well just have wrote "that's a laughable thing to say."
Irony: God is beyond all phenomenon. He can be felt.
Phenomenon - a fact or occurrence that can be observed.
In a very loose way, “He” would be a phenomenon that god is beyond.
Originally posted by Ytse
What does "beyond all phenomenon" mean?How is the word "he" a phenomenon when it's creation and use is a matter of convention?
1. Beyond all phenomenon would mean outside of reality.
2. I can still find such a convention to be ironic.
Do you realize how many Christians really do believe that God is a man?
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
1. Beyond all phenomenon would mean outside of reality.
Ah, I don't affirm such a thing personally so I cannot comment.
Do you realize how many Christians really do believe that God is a man?
Almost all of them I reckon. The godhead including Jesus and all. Though in Christian theology the rest of the trinity is immaterial and so, has no gender in the biological sense.
Originally posted by Ytse
Ah, I don't affirm such a thing personally so I cannot comment.Almost all of them I reckon. The godhead including Jesus and all. Though in Christian theology the rest of the trinity is immaterial and so, has no gender in the biological sense.
I believe the Orthodox view on the trinity is god the father - male; the holly spirit - female and Jesus - male.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I believe the Orthodox view on the trinity is god the father - male; the holly spirit - female and Jesus - male.
It's definately not orthodox with a little o. But with a big O? I've never heard of such a thing but to be honest I am not very familiar with those particular branches of the religion. Which Orthodox demonination is it? Or do you have some kind of link I could look at?
Originally posted by Ytse
It's definately not orthodox with a little o. But with a big O? I've never heard of such a thing but to be honest I am not very familiar with those particular branches of the religion. Which Orthodox demonination is it? Or do you have some kind of link I could look at?
No, it was just something I hear on the History Channel.
Originally posted by ShakyamunisonUmm... no.
I believe the Orthodox view on the trinity is god the father - male; the holly spirit - female and Jesus - male.
Irenaeus
"For the Church, although dispersed throughout the whole world even to the ends of the earth, has received from the apostles and from their disciples the faith in one God, the Father Almighty . . . and in one Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who became flesh for our salvation; and in the Holy Spirit" (Against Heresies 1:10:1 [A.D. 189])
Tertullian
"We do indeed believe that there is only one God, but we believe that under this dispensation, or, as we say, oikonomia, there is also a Son of this one only God, his Word, who proceeded from him and through whom all things were made and without whom nothing was made. . . . We believe he was sent down by the Father, in accord with his own promise, the Holy Spirit, the Paraclete, the sanctifier of the faith of those who believe in the Father and the Son, and in the Holy Spirit. . . . This rule of faith has been present since the beginning of the gospel, before even the earlier heretics" (Against Praxeas 2 [A.D. 216]).
"Keep always in mind the rule of faith which I profess and by which I bear witness that the Father and the Son and the Spirit are inseparable from each other, and then you will understand what is meant by it. Observe now that I say the Father is other [distinct], the Son is other, and the Spirit is other. This statement is wrongly understood by every uneducated or perversely disposed individual, as if it meant diversity and implied by that diversity a separation of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit" (ibid., 9).
Orthodox beliefs states that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and is never given a sex.
Originally posted by Nellinator
Umm... no.Irenaeus
"For the Church, although dispersed throughout the whole world even to the ends of the earth, has received from the apostles and from their disciples the faith in one God, the Father Almighty . . . and in one Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who became flesh for our salvation; and in the Holy Spirit" (Against Heresies 1:10:1 [A.D. 189])Tertullian
"We do indeed believe that there is only one God, but we believe that under this dispensation, or, as we say, oikonomia, there is also a Son of this one only God, his Word, who proceeded from him and through whom all things were made and without whom nothing was made. . . . We believe he was sent down by the Father, in accord with his own promise, the Holy Spirit, the Paraclete, the sanctifier of the faith of those who believe in the Father and the Son, and in the Holy Spirit. . . . This rule of faith has been present since the beginning of the gospel, before even the earlier heretics" (Against Praxeas 2 [A.D. 216])."Keep always in mind the rule of faith which I profess and by which I bear witness that the Father and the Son and the Spirit are inseparable from each other, and then you will understand what is meant by it. Observe now that I say the Father is other [distinct], the Son is other, and the Spirit is other. This statement is wrongly understood by every uneducated or perversely disposed individual, as if it meant diversity and implied by that diversity a separation of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit" (ibid., 9).
Orthodox beliefs states that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and is never given a sex.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No, it was just something I hear on the History Channel.
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