The Virginia Tech Massacre April 16th, 2007 (Another Step In Removing USA Gun Rights)

Started by NuclearWinter21 pages

In one of Cho Seung-Hui's videos, he gives a reference to the killers from the Columbine School Massacre. He calls them "marytrs" and says that they too died for a specific reason.

Now...what reason could this be? I have my ideas, others have theirs. Most people agree that one of the purposes was to kill, but they don't focus so much outside the box. I believe that it's all part of a larger agenda. This is why in the past 10 years we have seen school massacres like never before. And back in the day these things on this type of scale were never heard of.

Could it be that the whole reason the past 10 years has shown this much gun violence is because the New World Order is in full swing and the people behind it are trying to eliminate our right to bear arms as soon as possible? And that they will do whatever it takes to spin these events in their favor so that they can get the ball moving even faster?

I believe in this possibility. Because everything I have studied so far in my life brings me to here. And this is what I see unfolding. They won't stop at the Virginia Tech Massacre though, because if the American people aren't willing to give up our guns now, they will "step it up a notch" so to speak, in hopes that we will cave.

Whats interesting to me about the reference to the Columbine killers though is that they too have been said to have been affiliated with Satanists. And I'm not talking about the TrenchCoat Mafia either. Because that is a whole nother thing by itself.

Besides giving reference to the Columbine Killers, Cho Seung-Hui also wrote out a manifesto, just like the Oklahoma City Bomber.

In fact, what is really interesting about The Virginia Tech Massacre, the Columbine High School Massacre, and the Oklahoma City Bombings is that they all occured in April, and that they all occured within the same week, and that they all occured around the time of April 19th. Which is a well known important Satanic ritual date. Hell, one of them occured right on April 19th!

April 19th is a Satanic ritual day relating to fire - or the "fire god" Baal or Moloch. And what does Moloch demand according to the Satanists/Illuminati? The sacrifice of children. The mass number of those killed on this day are done according to the same belief as those performed by the ancients. In the same way, these events to these Satanist/Illuminati members are mass blood rituals in which large numbers of people are killed and maimed, and the planet is engulfed by negative energy.

As I mentioned before, April is the month of the "sacrificial Lamb." This is an extremely important month for the Satanists/Illuminati. They use this month fo honor their "gods" with the mass sacrifice of innocent people.

Virginia Tech High School Massacre - April 16, 2007 - 33 dead. 33 is an Illuminati signature number.

Columbine High School Massacre - April 20, 1999 - 13 dead. 13 is another Illuminati signature number.

The Oklohoma City Bombings: April 19, 1995. April 19th is a special Satanic ritual date.

Ok so if that wasn't enough evidence for you guys, than how about the fact that if we take the date of April 19th, which is the most significant date out of all 3 of the above, it's easy to see that the date of the Columbine High School Massacre was 1 day away from the date of the month/day of the Oklahoma City Bombings. And if we look at the Virginia Tech School Massacre date we can see that it is 3 days away from the day/month of the Oklahoma City Bombings. Put those two numbers together 1 and 3 and you get the number 13. And it all revolves around that very special Satanic/Illuminati date of April 19th.

Originally posted by J-Beowulf
NuclearWinter has 13 letters. Taking this further, if you add up all the letters you get: 14+21+3+12+5+1+18+23+9+14+20+5+18=163. If we take the U and L from nuclear and add them together, we get 33. If we separate the N in nuclear into two single digits and then put that number next to the numerical value of c, we get 33. If we subtract the numerical value of R in winter from E in winter we get 13 . If we multiply all the numerical values, we get the number 4968933 984000. From this number, (starting with the first number and going down the line) if we multiply 4x9x6 and then subtract 89, we get the number 127. If we continue going down the line (excluding 33 because it's so significant) and subtract 98 from 127 we get 29. Finally, add 4 to that, and what do we get? 33.

NUCLEARWINTER IS A PART OF THE CONSPIRACY. HE'S BEEN A PART ALL ALONG, AND HAS BEEN FOOLING US ALL. OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE, SEE THE LIGHT.

Sarcasm off. See, Nuclear? I can find the number 33 and 13 in names, places and acronyms too. YOU DAMN GOVERNMENT AGENT!

I love you. This post is going into my profile right now.

Like I said before... the only thing Nuclear Winter has proved in this thread is that...

1) He has absolutely no idea what the word "coincedence" means
2) He most likely has not seen daylight in well over 3 years considering the fact that he has absolutely no social life, makes several of THOUSANDS of posts in this stupid forum, and lives in a closet
3) His mother doesn't love him
4) His father doesn't love him
5) EDIT
6) NO ONE LOVES HIM
7) He has the IQ of my left testicle
8) He refuses to listen to anyone who doesn't believe in his stupid conspiracies... which actually defeats the purpose of making any of these threads because in the long run he's talking to himself and the two other conspiracy ****tards who live in this forum.
9) He manages to create a series of completely irrelevant posts that have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with this topic... such as implanting microchips in children.... through CHILD MOLESTATION.

Nuclear Winter, the only thing you have accomplished in this thread is insulting the 33 people who died in the Virginia tech massacre and taking a nice steamy dump on the chest of logic itself.

EDIT: It wasn't worth the calorie I burned

[QUOTE=8790528]Originally posted by NuclearWinter

Ok so if that wasn't enough evidence for you guys, than how about the fact that if we take the date of [B]April
19th, which is the most significant date out of all 3 of the above, it's easy to see that the date of the Columbine High School Massacre was 1 day away from the date of the month/day of the Oklahoma City Bombings. And if we look at the Virginia Tech School Massacre date we can see that it is 3 days away from the day/month of the Oklahoma City Bombings. Put those two numbers together 1 and 3 and you get the number 13.

Sorry for triple posting... but obviously you are retarded. Seriously do you have some type of mental issue because this is just beyond stupid. Has it not occured to you that there are hundreds of ways to get the numbers 13 and 33. Also the fact that every way you get these numbers are completely different proves that they mean nothing. In one post you break apart the numbers into single digits and subtract them... another you multiply or divide or subtract... DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING?

Nothing you have posted so far can even come close to be considered "evidence."

Originally posted by Spartan005
[QUOTE=8790528]Originally posted by NuclearWinter
[B]
Ok so if that wasn't enough evidence for you guys, than how about the fact that if we take the date of [B]April
19th, which is the most significant date out of all 3 of the above, it's easy to see that the date of the Columbine High School Massacre was 1 day away from the date of the month/day of the Oklahoma City Bombings. And if we look at the Virginia Tech School Massacre date we can see that it is 3 days away from the day/month of the Oklahoma City Bombings. Put those two numbers together 1 and 3 and you get the number 13.

Sorry for triple posting... but obviously you are retarded. Seriously do you have some type of mental issue because this is just beyond stupid. Has it not occured to you that there are hundreds of ways to get the numbers 13 and 33. Also the fact that every way you get these numbers are completely different proves that they mean nothing. In one post you break apart the numbers into single digits and subtract them... another you multiply or divide or subtract... DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING?

Nothing you have posted so far can even come close to be considered "evidence." [/B]

If you say so. To me, the connection is obvious. And I am sure anybody who takes a good look can see what I'm talking about. Except for the ones talking out of their asses..and ranting about everything but the obvious.

I won't mention any names.

Another significant event that happened on the Satanic ritual date of April 19th is the Waco incident, where fire completely consumed the Branch Davidian ranch at Mount Carmel complex, killing 79 people, including 21 children and Davidian leader David Koresh.

Again, we see the significance of the fire and April 19th. This is obviously another Satanic act where burning tons of children for the homage of their fire "god" Baal/Moloch can be seen.

Nuclear, the way you ignore people's points and criticisms is not so much admirable, but slightly frightening and increasingly disturbing.

Though some have made jokes about your sanity or grip on reality (including me) I will try not to take that avenue anymore, for I fear that you do indeed have some serious mental issues and there is no fun in pointing out such obvious flaws. I actually feel pity for you now.

The importance of the order of the 3 events is extremely important, because it's a perfect symbol created out of disastrous events for America.

Let me show you what I mean:

First came the Oklahoma City Bombings on April 19th, 1995.

Next came the Columbine High School Massacre on April 20th, 1999. 1 day away from April 19th.

Next came the Virginia Tech School Massacre on April 16, 2007. 3 days away from April 19th.

So first came the Satanic fire ritual date, then came the number 1, and then came the number 3.

So essentially, what we have here, is a symbol for the one of the Satanist's favorite days with the number 13 wrapped around it.

Clever huh?

Let's get a mathematician in here. I would like to see what the odds are for the numbers 33 and 13 appearing everywhere in our government and also that they occured in the two most famous School Massacres in the United States and also that all of the High School Massacres involving large numbers of dead within the past 10-15 years have occured within the months of March or April.

I would like to know the odds on all of this. Statistically I mean. My guess is that the odds would be incredible.

By the way I said Mathematician. lol. Not Lord XYZ or Kharma dog tapping away at their t-180 calculators.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Nuclear, the way you ignore people's points and criticisms is not so much admirable, but slightly frightening and increasingly disturbing.

Though some have made jokes about your sanity or grip on reality (including me) I will try not to take that avenue anymore, for I fear that you do indeed have some serious mental issues and there is no fun in pointing out such obvious flaws. I actually feel pity for you now.


No worries Kharma. I think I know the reason why you are confused. It's because you never bothered to ask me if I gave damn what you thought about me.

Cho Seung-Hui: I did it. When the time came I did it.

So what does his statement prove? It proves that the date of April 16th, 2007 was pre-planned by someone. Or that it was pre-planned by Cho himself.

What it does show though...is that Cho waited for that specific date and time to do what he did when he did it.

well I just noticed wrathfuls dwarfs warning so I need to edit this post for the name calling I just gave to kharma dog.

Originally posted by Robtard
Granted, but the tool does have a right to rant nonsense in the conspiracy forum, it's the reason it exist.

same as above.thats something he doesnt seem to have any logic or common sense about is that this IS the conspiracy section. 🙄

anyways about the topic,yeah I heard some people talking about this the other day.Not so sure why they feel it is a conspiracy like 9-11 or the kennedy assassination though,these kinda things DO happen in schools all the time after all.Unlike most people in this forum,I know the truth that the government was behind the kennedy assassination and JFK juniors as well and 9-11.THIS one though,Im not sold on though that it was a government conspiracy.at least not yet.

Seung-Hui Cho Was a Mind Controlled Assassin
Deadly accuracy, disturbing revelations suggest outside involvement in VA Massacre, cocktail of brainwashing from prozac, violent video games contributed to carnage

Seung-Hui Cho was a mind-controlled assassin, whether you believe he was under the influence of outside parties or not, the fact is that the cultural brainwashing of violent video games and psychotropic drugs directly contributed, as it does in all these cases, to the carnage at Virginia Tech on Monday morning.

Gun grabbers are already exploiting the tragedy to disarm future students from the opportunity of being able to defend themselves against deranged killers, but the media circus is completely silent when it comes to the laying blame at the feet of a deadly cocktail of mind-warping drugs and bloodthirsty shoot-em-ups.

Outside of the obvious culpability of the factors we see in every mass shooting - video games and "antidepressant" drugs, numerous red flags concerning Monday events are beginning to suggest that Cho was more than a heartbroken nutcase with an axe to grind.

Charles Mesloh, Professor of Criminology at Florida Gulf Coast University, told NBC 2 News that he was shocked Cho could have killed 32 people with two handguns absent expert training. Mesloh immediately assumed that Cho must have used a shotgun or an assault rifle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMGmJG9RM90&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eprisonplanet%2Ecom%2Farticles%2Fapril2007%2F190407mindcontrolled%2Ehtm

"I'm dumbfounded by the number of people he managed to kill with these weapons," said Mesloh, "The only thing I can figure is that he got close to them and he simply executed them."

Mesloh said the killer performed like a trained professional, "He had a 60% fatality rate with handguns - that's unheard of given 9 millimeters don't kill people instantly," said Mesloh, stating that the handguns Cho used were designed for "plinking at cans," not executing human beings.

Cho was certainly no slouch, in the two hour gap between the first reported shootings and the wider rampage that would occur later in the morning, during which time the University completely failed to warn the students despite having loudspeakers stationed throughout the campus, Cho had time to film a confession video, transfer it to his computer, burn it onto a DVD, package it up, travel to the post office, post the package, and travel back to his dorm room to retrieve his guns and then travel back to the opposite end of the campus to resume the killing spree. The almost inconceivable speed of Cho's actions become more suspicious when we recall initial reports that there were two shooters.

Even if we rule out the fact that Cho had received expert firearms training, the cultural mind control of violent video games and mind-altering psychotropic drugs were themselves a cocktail of brainwashing that directly contributed to the carnage, as they do in nearly all these cases.

From the very first reports of the shootings we predicted the killer would be on prozac, would have recently been in psychiatric care and would have regularly played violent video games and that has precisely turned out to be accurate in all three instances.

"Several Korean youths who knew Cho Seung Hui from his high school days said he was a fan of violent video games, particularly a game called "Counterstrike," a hugely popular online game in which players join terrorism or counterterrorism groups and try to shoot each other using all types of guns," reports Newsmax citing the Washington Post.

"In December 2005 -- more than a year before Monday's mass shootings -- a district court in Montgomery County, Va., ruled that Cho presented "an imminent danger to self or others." That was the necessary criterion for a detention order, so that Cho, who had been accused of stalking by two female schoolmates, could be evaluated by a state doctor and ordered to undergo outpatient care," reports ABC News, " but despite the court identifying the future killer as a risk, they let him go.

Investigators believe that Cho Seung Hui, the Virginia Tech murderer, had been taking anti-depressant medication at some point before the shootings, according to The Chicago Tribune.

Columbine shooters Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, as well as 15-year-old Kip Kinkel, the Oregon killer who gunned down his parents and classmates, were all on psychotropic drugs. Scientific studies proving that prozac encourages suicidal tendencies in young people are voluminous and span back nearly a decade.

Jeff Weise, the Red Lake High School killer was on prozac, "Unabomber" Ted Kaczinski, Michael McDermott, John Hinckley, Jr., Byran Uyesugi, Mark David Chapman and Charles Carl Roberts IV, the Amish school killer, were all on SSRI psychotropic drugs.

Since these deadly drugs are prevalent in almost all mass shooting incidents, where is the call to ban prozac? Why is the knee-jerk reaction always to attack the 2nd Amendment rights of Americans to self-defense, a right that was exercised in January 2002 when students subdued a shooter at another Virginia university before he could kill more than three people because they were allowed guns on campus?

Why are the deeper reasons behind what motivates young men to kill pushed aside while control freaks demand that law-abiding citizens be disarmed of the only thing that can protect them from such madmen?

Questions about the sequence of events on Monday, VA Tech, as well as the profile of the killer are arousing increased suspicion.

We have been receiving numerous calls and e mails alerting us to the fact that VA Tech is pulling links from its website concerning their relationship with the CIA. Reports from November 2005 confirm that the CIA was active in operating recruitment programs based out of VA Tech. Several professors from VA Tech are involved in government programs linked with NASA and other agencies.

Wikipedia also pulled a bizarre recently taken photograph of Cho wearing a U.S. Marines uniform.

Such details only fan the flames of accusations that Cho could have been a Manchurian Candidate, a mind-controlled assassin.

The CIA's program to create mind-controlled assassins that could be triggered by code words, MK ULTRA, is not a conspiracy theory, it's a historical fact documented by declassified government files and Senate hearings. President Bill Clinton himself had to apologize for the program before he left office.

On the Senate floor in 1977, Senator Ted Kennedy said, "The Deputy Director of the CIA revealed that over thirty universities and institutions were involved in an 'extensive testing and experimentation' program which included covert drug tests on unwitting citizens 'at all social levels, high and low, native Americans and foreign."

One such victim of these experiments was Cathy O'Brien, who immediately after the shootings re-iterated the revelations in her latest book, that Blacksburg Virginia is a central location for mind control programs that are still ongoing today.

CIA mind control programs can be tracked back to the 1950's and Project BLUEBIRD, later renamed ARTICHOKE. From blogger Kurt Nimmo;

“BLUEBIRD was approved by the CIA director on April 20, 1950. In August 1951, the Project was renamed ARTICHOKE. BLUEBIRD and ARTICHOKE included a great deal of work on the creation of amnesia, hypnotic couriers, and the Manchurian Candidate,” writes Colin A. Ross, MD. “ARTICHOKE documents prove that hypnotic couriers functioned effectively in real-life simulations conducted by the CIA in the early 1950’s. The degree to which such individuals were used in actual operations is still classified…. BLUEBIRD and ARTICHOKE were administered in a compartmented fashion. The details of the programs were kept secret even form other personnel within the CIA…. The BLUEBIRD/ARTICHOKE materials establish conclusively that full Manchurian Candidates were created and tested successfully by physicians with TOP SECRET clearance from the CIA…. As well as being potential couriers and infiltration agents, the subjects could function in effect as hypnotically controlled cameras. They could enter a room or building, memorize materials quickly, leave the building, and then be amnesic for the entire episode. The memorized material could then be retrieved by a handler using a previously implanted code or signal, without the amnesia being disturbed. Hypnosis was not the mind control doctors’ only method for creation of controlled amnesia, however. Drugs, magnetic fields, sound waves, sleep deprivation, solitary confinement, and many other methods were studied under BLUEBIRD and ARTHICHOKE.”

Researchers into supposed "lone nut" assassinations time and time again run across evidence pointing to CIA mind control experimentation. The best example is Sirhan Sirhan, Bobby Kennedy's assassin. Sirhan was found to be in a completely trance-like state after pulling the trigger and couldn't even remember shooting Kennedy when asked about the incident days later. Sirhan's lawyer, Lawrence Teeter, has presented convincing evidence that Sirhan was under mind control.

Either way you cut it, Seung-Hui Cho was a victim of brainwashing and mind control. The right questions are not being asked and the finger of blame is being pointed in the wrong direction, ensuring that another tragedy like the VA Tech Massacre is almost guaranteed.

Originally posted by J-Beowulf
NuclearWinter has 13 letters. Taking this further, if you add up all the letters you get: 14+21+3+12+5+1+18+23+9+14+20+5+18=163. If we take the U and L from nuclear and add them together, we get 33. If we separate the N in nuclear into two single digits and then put that number next to the numerical value of c, we get 33. If we subtract the numerical value of R in winter from E in winter we get 13 . If we multiply all the numerical values, we get the number 4968933 984000. From this number, (starting with the first number and going down the line) if we multiply 4x9x6 and then subtract 89, we get the number 127. If we continue going down the line (excluding 33 because it's so significant) and subtract 98 from 127 we get 29. Finally, add 4 to that, and what do we get? 33.

NUCLEARWINTER IS A PART OF THE CONSPIRACY. HE'S BEEN A PART ALL ALONG, AND HAS BEEN FOOLING US ALL. OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE, SEE THE LIGHT.

Sarcasm off. See, Nuclear? I can find the number 33 and 13 in names, places and acronyms too. YOU DAMN GOVERNMENT AGENT!

You're obviously a lot better at that then me. hmm Maybe you're part of the conspiracy!

See Lord,I dont agree with Winter here that this was a conspiracy-not at the moment anyways.I think it was just some crazy nut case but do you see me attacking Winter calling him names like your buddie Kharma Dog is doing? that just says it all about him.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
See Lord,I dont agree with Winter here that this was a conspiracy-not at the moment anyways.I think it was just some crazy nut case but do you see me attacking Winter calling him names like your buddie Kharma Dog is doing? that just says it all about him.

That was probably the greatest thing you have ever said in this forum.

i see the point winter is making. i think he has over done somethings though. you have to take it a bit at atime