The Virginia Tech Massacre April 16th, 2007 (Another Step In Removing USA Gun Rights)

yeh good points.

and as william cooper (R.I.P) said:

My research has shown, at this point, that the future laid out for us may be just about impossible to change. I do not agree with the means by which the powerful few have chosen for us to reach the end. I do not agree that the end is where we should end at all. But unless we can wake the people from their sleep, nothing short of civil war will stop the planned outcome. I base that statement not on defeatism but on the apathy of the majority of the American people. Twenty-five years ago I would have believed otherwise — but twenty-five years ago I was also sound asleep. We have been taught lies. Reality is not at all what we perceive it to be.

We cannot survive any longer by hanging onto the falsehoods of the past. Reality must be discerned at all costs if we are to be a part of the future. Truth must prevail in all instances, no matter who it hurts or helps, if we are to continue to live upon this earth. At this point, what we want may no longer matter. It is what we must do to ensure our survival that counts. The old way is in the certain process of destruction and a New World Order is beating down the door.

To cling to the past is guaranteed suicide. To remain apathetic is assured enslavement. To learn the truth and then act upon it is the only means of survival at this moment. To shrug off the information contained in this book and to disregard its warning will result in the complete destruction of the Republic of the United States of America. You will never get a second warning or a second chance. Like it or not, this is it, stark reality. You can no longer turn your head, ignore it, pretend if s not true, say "it can't happen to me," run, or hide. The wolf is at the door.

I fear for the little ones, the innocents, who are already paying for our mistakes. There exists a great army of occupationally orphaned children. They are attending government-controlled day-care centers. And latchkey kids who are running wild in the streets. And the lop-sided, emotionally wounded children of single welfare mothers, born only for the sake of more money in the monthly check. Open your eyes and look at them, for they are the future. In them I see the sure and certain destruction of this once-proud nation. In their vacant eyes I see the death of Freedom. They carry with them a great emptiness — and someone will surely pay a great price for their suffering.

If we do not act in concert with each other and ensure that the future becomes what we need it to be, then we will surely deserve whatever fate awaits us.

Originally posted by Deano
its stupid to put everything into a conspiracy.

William Cooper is exactly right.He hit the nail right on the head.

100% of the High School/College School Shootings (Massacres) that involved 5 or more dead and that took place in the United States have all occured during the month of April.

100%!

They are:

1. April 20, 1999 ( April 20th is Adolf Hitler's birthday).

Littleton, Colo. 14 students (including killers) and one teacher killed, 23 others wounded at Columbine High School in one of the nation's deadliest school shooting. Eric Harris, 18, and Dylan Klebold, 17, had plotted for a year to kill at least 500 and blow up their school. At the end of their hour-long rampage, they turned their guns on themselves.

2. April 16, 2007

Blacksburg, Va. A 23-year-old Virginia Tech student, Cho Seung-Hui, killed two in a dorm, then killed 30 more 2 hours later in a classroom building. His suicide brought the death toll to 33, making the shooting rampage the most deadly in U.S. history. Fifteen others were wounded.

It just so happens that these are the two most famous school massacres in the United States of America. And the ones that the media focused on the most.

Interesting. And the interesting part is that these are THE ONLY High school massacres (involving 5 or more dead) that occured at high schools/colleges in the United States of America. They both took place during the month of April.

April is the month of sacrifice for Satanists. It is also the month of Adolf Hitler's birthday. And it is also the month that contains a Satanist holiday, April 19th, where they honor their "god" Baal/Moloch.

This comes from Encyclopædia Britannica:

Moloch

Also spelled Molech, - a deity to whom child sacrifices were made throughout the ancient Middle East. The name derives from combining the consonants of the Hebrew melech (“king”) with the vowels of boshet (“shame”), the latter often being used in the Old Testament as a variant name for the popular god Baal (“Lord”).

The laws given to Moses by God expressly forbade the Jews to do what was done in for Moloch…

These are the ONLY two Highschool/College school shootings that involved more than 5 people dead. And both of them contain the numbers 13 and 33 in their body count.

13 killed at the Columbine Highschool. 33 dead at Virginia Tech.

13 and 33 are Illuminati/Satanist signature numbers.

Coincidence, coincidence, coincidence. This proves nothing.

So far as I know...

The deadliest school shooting ever recorded in the whole World that has occurred within the last 10-15 years have occurred outside of the United States occurred on the 13th day of the month.

March 13 , 1996

Dunblane, Scotland 16 children and one teacher killed at Dunblane Primary School by Thomas Hamilton, who then killed himself. 10 others wounded in attack.

The Spring Equinox occurs in March and Satanists worship the Spring Equinox.

And from what I have studied so far, the second deadliest school shooting that occurred outside of the United States within the last 10-15 years occured in the month of April.

April 26, 2002

Erfurt, Germany 13 teachers, two students, and one policeman killed, ten wounded by Robert Steinhaeuser, 19, at the Johann Gutenberg secondary school. Steinhaeuser then killed himself.

For the Satanists, April is the month sacrifice.

The third largest school shooting that has ever been recorded within the last 10-15 years from what I have studied occured on March 30th.

March 30th, 1997

Sanaa, Yemen Eight people (six students and two others) at two schools killed by Mohammad Ahman al-Naziri.

So folks, from what it looks like,

ALL of the College School and High School Massacres IN THE ENTIRE WORLD involving 5 or more dead in the past 10-15 have occurred in only one of two months, which is either the months of March or April.

Both of these are significant months for Satanists. I've already gone into that in this thread though.

Originally posted by NuclearWinter
100% of the High School/College School Shootings (Massacres) that involved 5 or more dead and that took place in the United States have all occured during the month of [B]April.

100%!

They are:

1. April 20, 1999 ( April 20th is Adolf Hitler's birthday).

Littleton, Colo. 14 students (including killers) and one teacher killed, 23 others wounded at Columbine High School in one of the nation's deadliest school shooting. Eric Harris, 18, and Dylan Klebold, 17, had plotted for a year to kill at least 500 and blow up their school. At the end of their hour-long rampage, they turned their guns on themselves.

2. April 16, 2007

Blacksburg, Va. A 23-year-old Virginia Tech student, Cho Seung-Hui, killed two in a dorm, then killed 30 more 2 hours later in a classroom building. His suicide brought the death toll to 33, making the shooting rampage the most deadly in U.S. history. Fifteen others were wounded.

It just so happens that these are the two most famous school massacres in the United States of America. And the ones that the media focused on the most.

Interesting. And the interesting part is that these are THE ONLY High school massacres (involving 5 or more dead) that occured at high schools/colleges in the United States of America. They both took place during the month of April.

April is the month of sacrifice for Satanists. It is also the month of Adolf Hitler's birthday. And it is also the month that contains a Satanist holiday, April 19th, where they honor their "god" Baal/Moloch.

This comes from Encyclopædia Britannica:

Moloch

Also spelled Molech, - a deity to whom child sacrifices were made throughout the ancient Middle East. The name derives from combining the consonants of the Hebrew melech (“king”) with the vowels of boshet (“shame”), the latter often being used in the Old Testament as a variant name for the popular god Baal (“Lord”).

The laws given to Moses by God expressly forbade the Jews to do what was done in for Moloch…

These are the ONLY two Highschool/College school shootings that involved more than 5 people dead. And both of them contain the numbers 13 and 33 in their body count.

13 killed at the Columbine Highschool. 33 dead at Virginia Tech.

13 and 33 are Illuminati/Satanist signature numbers. [/B]

Why do you count the shooter himself in the Virginia Tech shooting, but not the shooters in Columbine? Sounds like you're taking your choice depending on whether the numbers work out, eh?

EDIT: What about these shootings and reports of school violence?
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777958.html

Funny, I see a lot more months than March and April.

http://www2.indystar.com/library/factfiles/crime/school_violence/school_shootings.html

And all of these international school shootings? Many, as you can see, took place in months that are, in fact, not April or March. If you're trying to prove a point, you can't leave out shootings that don't fit your own parameters.

Originally posted by J-Beowulf
Why do you count the shooter himself in the Virginia Tech shooting, but not the shooters in Columbine? Sounds like you're taking your choice depending on whether the numbers work out, eh?

He also counts the victims in one incident but not in others. Better to try and baffle people with bullsh*t then sit down and work on an actual thesis that would hold up to at least the scrutiny of a druncken monkey.

Originally posted by J-Beowulf
Why do you count the shooter himself in the Virginia Tech shooting, but not the shooters in Columbine? Sounds like you're taking your choice depending on whether the numbers work out, eh?

EDIT: What about these shootings and reports of school violence?
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777958.html

Funny, I see a lot more months than March and April.

http://www2.indystar.com/library/factfiles/crime/school_violence/school_shootings.html

And all of these international school shootings? Many, as you can see, took place in months that are, in fact, not April or March. If you're trying to prove a point, you can't leave out shootings that don't fit your own parameters.

J Beo can you read?

I clearly said that ALL High School and College Massacres within the last 10-15 years involving 5 or more dead have occurred in March or April. In the United States or anywhere else. That have occurred in Highschools and Colleges.

You have to read the fine print brother.

You only proved my point with those two links.

Both of those links show timelines and body counts which proves my point even further.

Thanks for the help. =)

As far as the Columbine killers thing goes, there need not be an explanation for that. As long as the number 13 shows up clearly in their killing spree.

13 dead. Then the columbine killers killed themselves.

In Cho's case, he made himself the 33rd victim.

I hear the other Gunman has been named..

Shoo Ting Yanks🙂

Originally posted by Bicnarok
I hear the other Gunman has been named..

Shoo Ting Yanks🙂

Originally posted by NuclearWinter
As far as the Columbine killers thing goes, there need not be an explanation for that. As long as the number [B]13 shows up clearly in their killing spree.

13 dead. Then the columbine killers killed themselves.

In Cho's case, he made himself the 33rd victim. [/B]

So in columbine 15 people died. You just said it yourself. How can Cho make himself a victim, but the Columbines not be counted in the same way?

So let's see, if we count the killers in the counts we get: 15 dead at columbine, 33 dead at VT.

If we don't count them, we get 13 dead at Columbine and 32 dead at VT.

Make up your mind Nuclear, either include the shooters as victims in both cases, or not. Do not misconstrue the data to make a point.

Originally posted by NuclearWinter
J Beo can you read?

I clearly said that ALL High School and College Massacres within the last 10-15 years involving 5 or more dead have occurred in [B]March or April. In the United States or anywhere else. That have occurred in Highschools and Colleges.

You have to read the fine print brother.

You only proved my point with those two links.

Both of those links show timelines and body counts which proves my point even further.

Thanks for the help. =) [/B]

Of course if you make the guidelines like that, you can get any number you want. So you're just discounting all other high school and college shootings, because no more than 5 people died?

Originally posted by J-Beowulf
So in columbine 15 people died. You just said it yourself. How can Cho make himself a victim, but the Columbines not be counted in the same way?

So let's see, if we count the killers in the counts we get: 15 dead at columbine, 33 dead at VT.

If we don't count them, we get 13 dead at Columbine and 32 dead at VT.

Make up your mind Nuclear, either include the shooters as victims in both cases, or not. Do not misconstrue the data to make a point.

You don't get to make the rules here partna.

There is no written rule that says that it couldn't happen that way. And I personally believe they chose to do it like that.

It's one of the rules of logic.

Thou shalt not apply rules to only parts of your theory that make you right. Thou must apply rules to all of the theory or none of the theory.

In your case, the rule is counting the killer as a victim.

Example: VT, Columbine

In Christianity's case, the rule is following the Bible's rules. They pick some rules in the Bible to follow, but not others.

Example: Do not be gay, do not approach a woman when she's on her period, do not commit adultery, stone to death a pregnant teenager.

Hey Lord I have a thread going in the general discussion forum that you might want to take part in....

It wouldn't be the same without ya Brother.

Originally posted by NuclearWinter
You don't get to make the rules here partna.

There is no written rule that says that it couldn't happen that way. And I personally believe they chose to do it like that.

You fail.

You spam, thus, you fail.