Originally posted by Newjak
Oh and I guess that Tony has also developed a Neutron Cannon that could destroy most organic life on Earth.Or maybe that was Andros Stark although I think it was Andros and Doom trying to take over Tony's weapon.
How do you mean? Like a gigantic blast, or a blast that can destroy any organic matter that gets in the line of fire?
Originally posted by batdude123Batman's tech with years prep work designed to take on exact weaknesses of opponents. Is what you keep forgetting. You honestly think that Ironman could build half the stuff you just said about Batman or in some ways hasn't.
Adam West is God. 😐I'm not saying Tony's technology isn't impressive, however Batman has shown more diverse and advanced weaponry than Stark has.
And the calibre of opponents Batman has beaten with said tech is>>>Stark's opponents.
All I'm gonna say is he has punked Namor with his suit and he has Magnetic Replusers. Seriously Tony's suit has so many gizmos it isn't funny.
Originally posted by batdude123
You're forgetting the extra month of prep they each get. That's plenty of time for Bats to develope other high tech equipment.Also, people don't seem to realize that Tony doesn't get his suit for this fight either.
Well, it wasn't really said that Tony gets his armor or not but if you think about it, thats most likely is what Batman is going to be dealing with.
With Batman's resources Tony could easily recreate his current armor with upgrades on top of that most likely.
Originally posted by Newjak
Batman's tech with years prep work designed to take on exact weaknesses of opponents. Is what you keep forgetting. You honestly think that Ironman could build half the stuff you just said about Batman or in some ways hasn't.All I'm gonna say is he has punked Namor with his suit and he has Magnetic Replusers. Seriously Tony's suit has so many gizmos it isn't funny.
Where the hell did you get "years" of prep from? He designed those failsafes for the whole league in a couple months.
And why are you basing Batman's prep time throughout his entire career on Tower of Babel? Most of the times, he doesn't attack specific weaknesses. He just builds technology tough enough to take down opponents. I never realized creating a trans-dimensional teleportation device was using a weakness against a villain. 😕
And he never spends "years" prepping against opponents. Ever. That assumption has about as much worth as me saying Tony can't fire energy blasts. 🙄
Oh, and yes I seriously doubt Tony could replicate what Batman designed in Tower of Babel.
Originally posted by batdude123I was basing Batman's arc off of Tower of Babel because didn't you say that was like his shining moment for tech.
Where the hell did you get "years" of prep from? He designed those failsafes for the whole league in a couple months.And why are you basing Batman's prep time throughout his entire career on Tower of Babel? Most of the times, he doesn't attack specific weaknesses. He just builds technology tough enough to take down opponents. I never realized creating a trans-dimensional teleportation device was using a weakness against a villain. 😕
And he never spends "years" prepping against opponents. Ever. That assumption has about as much worth as me saying Tony can't fire energy blasts. 🙄
Oh, and yes I seriously doubt Tony could replicate what Batman designed in Tower of Babel.
And yes I do believe anything Batman has built Tony could as well. 😛
Originally posted by batdude123
Oh, and yes I seriously doubt Tony could replicate what Batman designed in Tower of Babel.
Placed in Bruce's shoes, Tony would do the exact same thing If your talking about how Batman can basically defeat any member of the JLA. Iron Man stated he has contingency plans against any Avenger.
Also when it comes to technology, there is nearly nothing out of Tony Stark's reach: Time travel, matter transportation, light-speed interplanetary travel.... you can check out alot of the cool ones here.
Originally posted by Innerhype
Placed in Bruce's shoes, Tony would do the exact same thing If your talking about how Batman can basically defeat any member of the JLA. Iron Man stated he has contingency plans against any Avenger.Also when it comes to technology, there is nearly nothing out of Tony Stark's reach: Time travel, matter transportation, light-speed interplanetary travel.... you can check out alot of the cool ones here.
That list is pretty impressive.
What would be a LOT more impressive is scans to go along with each claim, though I don't really doubt them.
Originally posted by Innerhype
Placed in Bruce's shoes, Tony would do the exact same thing If your talking about how Batman can basically defeat any member of the JLA. Iron Man stated he has contingency plans against any Avenger.
Bullshit.
First of all, JLA>>>Avengers.
Second of all, when he "preps" against somebody, it involves him creating a different suit to combat them.
Third of all, when has Tony said he has contingency plans for the Avengers? Have any proof of this statement? I'm asking this because not only have I not read it anywhere, but he's never demonstrated this notion that you're wanting me to believe.
His prep time was GREAT against an inexperienced King Thor. 🙄
Originally posted by Innerhype
Also when it comes to technology, there is nearly nothing out of Tony Stark's reach: Time travel, matter transportation, light-speed interplanetary travel
Again... bullshit. I'd LOVE to see any proof of him doing this stuff you've listed here.
Originally posted by Innerhype
you can check out alot of the cool ones here.
In essence, those are just dolled up ways of saying he has energy blasts, machine guns, rockets, and high tech transportation vehicles. 😬
Originally posted by batdude123Second of all, when he "preps" against somebody, it involves him creating a different suit to combat them.
Not always, like during the old Hands of the Mandarin arc. Tony was forced to kill Mandarin by coating his armor with a techno-organic virus that when touched, ages you exponentially. Poor Mandy was a pile of bones in what seemed like a few minutes.
Originally posted by batdude123
Third of all, when has Tony said he has contingency plans for the Avengers? Have any proof of this statement? I'm asking this because not only have I not read it anywhere, but he's never demonstrated this notion that you're wanting me to believe.
During Contest of Champion #2, Rogue who absorbed Scarlet Witches power shoots hexes at I.M. they bounce harmlessly and Tony says something along the lines of how his armor could take on the Avengers if need be.
And during Iron Man The Crossing, Tony combated the entire roster of the Avengers taking out several using his cunning, his power, and his ruthlessness
Originally posted by batdude123
His prep time was GREAT against an inexperienced King Thor. 🙄
That wasn't really prep time, though the "Thorbuster" could be more than a match for the normal Thor... an odinpower'd one not so much. Good fight nonetheless however.
Originally posted by Innerhype
Not always, like during the old Hands of the Mandarin arc. Tony was forced to kill Mandarin by coating his armor with a techno-organic virus that when touched, ages you exponentially. Poor Mandy was a pile of bones in what seemed like a few minutes.
That's good... however, Norman Osbourne has basically done the same thing. 😬
Not really the most impressive prepping strategy I've seen done by someone.
Originally posted by Innerhype
During Contest of Champion #2, Rogue who absorbed Scarlet Witches power shoots hexes at I.M. they bounce harmlessly and Tony says something along the lines of how his armor could take on the Avengers if need be.And during Iron Man The Crossing, Tony combated the entire roster of the Avengers taking out several using his cunning, his power, and his ruthlessness
And you call this having contingency plans for the entire roster of the Avengers? 😕
For your first point, merely saying he could take on the Avengers and actually doing it is entirely different. Talk is cheap. I could just as easily say that I would beat the shit out of Chuck Liddell in a fight. Could I actually do it? HEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLL no.
And for your second point... what exactly was the line up of Avengers he was fighting? He's been punked by Thor in every encounter they've ever had, btw. And I really don't see how this attests to his skill of prepping.
Originally posted by Innerhype
That wasn't really prep time, though the "Thorbuster" could be more than a match for the normal Thor... an odinpower'd one not so much. Good fight nonetheless however.
King Thor was less impressive than Classic Thor, actually.
And you're nuts if you think the Thorbuster armor could take Classic Odinson.
Originally posted by batdude123
For your first point, merely saying he could take on the Avengers and actually doing it is entirely different. Talk is cheap. I could just as easily say that I would beat the shit out of Chuck Liddell in a fight. Could I actually do it? HEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLL no.
Odinson.
Talk IS cheap, but this is Tony Stark doing the talking. In comparison, if Batman were to stare you in the eye say he could do something, even totally far-fetched, one better believe he could do it.
Originally posted by batdude123
And for your second point... what exactly was the line up of Avengers he was fighting?
Hmm, late 90s... some of the notable ones include Hercules, Crystal, Quicksilver, and Vison. Force Works was working with the Avengers at the time as well.
Originally posted by batdude123
He's been punked by Thor in every encounter they've ever had, btw. And I really don't see how this attests to his skill of prepping.
With the Iron Man armor, Tony doesn't really need to prep all that much outside of a specialty armor. Using the armor in completely unorthodox ways on the fly is what Tony normally does, IMO thats more interresting.
And what do you mean EVERY encounter?