World war hulk

Originally posted by Battlehammer
it never been stated in comics...........

it also never been stated stronger then logans skeleton which could in fact be stronger then pure adamtium.

and Logans skeketon has been stated as the strongest metal on the planet many many times.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
it never been stated in comics...........

it also never been stated stronger then logans skeleton which could in fact be stronger then pure adamtium.

and Logans skeketon has been stated as the strongest metal on the planet many many times.

There's no reason to believe that Logan's skeleton is stronger than primary adamantium.

In fact, there's as much reason to believe that it's stronger, as there is to believe that it's weaker. As far as the shield goes, I've seen it repeatedly. I'll try to find it when Im back at my desktop this weekend.

Originally posted by lando005
no cap's shield is stronger the whole reason adamantium exist is because they were trying to recreate the metal in his shield and adamintum is the cloest they could get. and there are lots of "uns" in marvl unlimited strength power etc but that doesn't mean they turely are just that their limit is unknown and it wouldnt be that big a deal if they let adamantium break it's not like it would ever happen often it's still the strongest metal on the planet save for the shield

you dont understand it can't be broken by strength.........it a fact. It can only be broken by manipulation of it molicules.

Oh, and McLain, the creator of both Cap's shield AND true adamantium even acknowledged that his latter creation was weaker.

Adamantium-beta, the adamantium currently attached to Wolverine's bones has NEVER been described as stronger or weaker than true adamantium; but it's equal. The only difference is it doesn't inhibit the bones' natural function as it did before.

Originally posted by Soljer
There's no reason to believe that Logan's skeleton is stronger than primary adamantium.

In fact, there's as much reason to believe that it's stronger, as there is to believe that it's weaker. As far as the shield goes, I've seen it repeatedly. I'll try to find it when Im back at my desktop this weekend.

ive never seen it stated that capts shield was stronger then Logans skeleton ever in a comic.

Originally posted by Soljer
Oh, and McLain, the creator of both Cap's shield AND true adamantium even acknowledged that his latter creation was weaker.

Adamantium-beta, the adamantium currently attached to Wolverine's bones has NEVER been described as stronger or weaker than true adamantium; but it's equal. The only difference is it doesn't inhibit the bones' natural function as it did before.

death strike father created adamtium........and im almost certain his name aint mclain lol.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
death strike father created adamtium........and im almost certain his name aint mclain lol.

um, I believe it's a reference to the guy who created the concept.. as in a writer.

well if it was the writter that hardly matter since he original said capts shield was haft adamtium haft vibranium.....

Nah, it's a continuity error that's never been officially retconned.

Myron MacLain is usually credited as being the inventor of both Captain America's shield and Adamantium.

Furthermore, while, as I mentioned, I can't find it in the comics till this weekend (hopefully? 😛) every single handbook that documents adamantium or Cap's shield will say that true adamantium is 'nearly as strong' as Captain America's shield.

While handbook ratings and the like aren't usually admissible in debate, this isn't a rating. As both have only been destroyed by high powered cosmics, neither have a superior 'feat,' however, the handbook directly states that Captain America's shield is stronger/more durable/whatever.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
well if it was the writter that hardly matter since he original said capts shield was haft adamtium haft vibranium.....

Originally posted by Battlehammer
well if it was the writter that hardly matter since he original said capts shield was haft adamtium haft vibranium.....

No he didn't. If I recall correctly, it's ALWAYS been an iron compound/vibranium. There was a mistake in one of Cap's series' (2? 3? I can't remember) that started the adamantium/vibranium thing. It was later copied into a handbook or two, on mistake, if I recall correctly.

It's always been iron/vibranium.

Originally posted by Soljer
Nah, it's a continuity error that's never been officially retconned.

Myron MacLain is usually credited as being the inventor of both Captain America's shield and Adamantium.

Furthermore, while, as I mentioned, I can't find it in the comics till this weekend (hopefully? 😛) every single handbook that documents adamantium or Cap's shield will say that true adamantium is 'nearly as strong' as Captain America's shield.

While handbook ratings and the like aren't usually admissible in debate, this isn't a rating. As both have only been destroyed by high powered cosmics, neither have a superior 'feat,' however, the handbook directly states that Captain America's shield is stronger/more durable/whatever.

Originally posted by Soljer
No he didn't. If I recall correctly, it's ALWAYS been an iron compound/vibranium. There was a mistake in one of Cap's series' (2? 3? I can't remember) that started the adamantium/vibranium thing. It was later copied into a handbook or two, on mistake, if I recall correctly.

It's always been iron/vibranium.

Let's geive this a moment to sink in folks... Handbook ratings aren't admissible (why? because they're often wrong? That sheds doubt on the entire handbook why isolate it to just the stats?), but this instance where his claim is supported is... however appearently handbooks then become wrong again a few posts later....

choosy about the information much?

Deathstrike's father inventing Adamantium is a vital part of Wolverine and Deathstrike's characters. It doesn't really seem to be that vital to acredtiing it to mclaine...

And hey soljer just what is a retcon? 🙂

I really do fail to see your point. Any handbook, from creation till now, that has featured Adamantium or Captain America's shield has always said that Adamantium is nearly as strong.

There was, I believe, a SINGLE inconsistency about the make-up of Cap's shield because it was taken directly from the erroneous writer - that doesn't interfere with someone else's consistency in the least.

And, besides, it was changed back to Iron/Vibranium afterwards. I'm not choosy about information - I was just pointing out that the very information in the handbook changed from one year to the next.

ANOTHER piece of information has remained static the entire time.

And, whether you feel it's vital or not, MacLain's always been credited as adamantium's first inventor. There is some discussion over whether he got it from Deathstrike's father or not, Lord Dark Wind, I believe. However, Lord Dark Wind HAS been credited the entire time with the adamantium-to-bone bonding process.

Regardless; Captain America's shield is superior to true adamantium, and has been since it's creation. 😬.

Originally posted by Soljer
I really do fail to see your point. Any handbook, from creation till now, that has featured Adamantium or Captain America's shield has always said that Adamantium is nearly as strong.

There was, I believe, a SINGLE inconsistency about the make-up of Cap's shield because it was taken directly from the erroneous writer - that doesn't interfere with someone else's consistency in the least.

And, besides, it was changed back to Iron/Vibranium afterwards. I'm not choosy about information - I was just pointing out that the very information in the handbook changed from one year to the next.

ANOTHER piece of information has remained static the entire time.

And, whether you feel it's vital or not, MacLain's always been credited as adamantium's first inventor. There is some discussion over whether he got it from Deathstrike's father or not, Lord Dark Wind, I believe. However, Lord Dark Wind HAS been credited the entire time with the adamantium-to-bone bonding process.

Regardless; Captain America's shield is superior to true adamantium, and has been since it's creation. 😬.

True, but honestly anything that could destroy adamantium could destroy Cap's shield just as easily 😬

So in the end it really doesn't matter

Originally posted by Grimm22
True, but honestly anything that could destroy adamantium could destroy Cap's shield just as easily 😬

So in the end it really doesn't matter

As far as we currently know? Absolutely.

Doesn't change the fact that Captain America's shield has always been and will always be superior to adamantium.

i almost forgot there is 1 person who can defeat the hulk and stop the rampage.................................... Squirrel girl !!!!!!!!!!! 👀

Originally posted by lando005
i almost forgot there is 1 person who can defeat the hulk and stop the rampage.................................... Squirrel girl !!!!!!!!!!! 👀

dont know y everyone's waiting on sentry when you have a power house like squirrel girl around

This is true.

That would be too funny if Squirrel Girl is the person who stops Hulk.