World war hulk

WWH #4 Tony/Sentry

... really BB did hit Hulk with a scream back when they fought off-panel at the start of WWH, this issue answers that question.
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> Check out the previously secret conversation between Tony and Sentry in the first issue but now revealed here. Specifically the part about what Tony said Black Bolt did in his battle with Hulk and the fact that Hulk still survived it. Kind of hard to imagine BB being able to pull that off with a mere "whisper" eh ?
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> Fast fact... Rhode Island covers an area of approximately 1,214 square miles

If BB screamed, shouldn't the Moon have been shattered?

It wasn't confirmed that Black Bolt screamed.

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Well Hulk got knocked over and thrown around pretty badly. It's reasonable to say that he intended to smash Strange since he's one of Hulk's targets and he'd just attacked Hirom.

The fight didn't turn around until Strange suddenly decided that the whole "I'll channel Zom though my body and start hitting people" plan was really really really stupid.

We all realized it was going to happen. What is really outrageous about this comic are those retarded people who supposedly speak about the injustice that the Illuminati have brought them. Ungrateful bastards don't realize that without them, the world would've been destroyed a million times over.

Who gave their lives to stop Onslaught? After the Hulk was stupid enough to make him almost unbeatable.

Or rather, they say that the illuminati are responsible for killing the Hulk's wife. They're also responsible for him meeting her in the first place. No one is capable of making that connection? No one is able to understand that the guys who have saved the world tons of times, might not be the kind that would purposely murder their friends family?

Originally posted by strengthkills
Yeah,I think Hulk was the more powerful one overall,considering he took and dished out the most.

Not necessarily. Hulk wasn't able to do anything until Strange stopped and starting wrestling back control.

did anyone else LAUGH OUT LOUD when Dr. Strange called the Hulk and his Warbound "stupid monsters?" It was funny hearing Zom-Strange talk... so different then the normal voice Strange is given.

and after this issue, does anyone else just want to see Hulk just get his ass handed to him by the Sentry? I mean, the forced fighting between the four heroes was really sad... Reed's shouting "Tony, defend yourself!" Strange's desperate apology to Black Bolt as he hurled a spell at him, Tony desperately trying to break free? It made me feel really sorry for the Illuminati. And feel bad for Stark, which I haven't felt... pretty much since "Demon in the Bottle."

and Llagrok, in response to your point about how ungrateful the people who spoke before the battle sounded... we also have to remember how in issue one of WWH and in Incredible Hulk 109, these are people who characterized to be too batsh** insane to run away from a city that's going to be destroyed... or people with a grudge, like Bill Foster's nephew. and also, apparently, according to Frontline 4, J. Jonah Jameson. so there's that.

How do people know that Strange merged with Zom? Or even know what the hell Zom is? For all they know, this could just be how Strange acts when pissed.

Originally posted by Morridini
If BB screamed, shouldn't the Moon have been shattered?

Originally posted by Rorschach
It wasn't confirmed that Black Bolt screamed.

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The battle tore out a chunk of the Moon the size of Rhode Island. That's more than a whisper and Iron Man/WW Hulk showed a scream. I'll admit it's muddled but I will go with the on panel art and dialogue.
That looks to be more than a whisper....

Originally posted by llagrok
How do people know that Strange merged with Zom? Or even know what the hell Zom is? For all they know, this could just be how Strange acts when pissed.

Originally posted by Badabing
It wasn't full Zom. Strange starts to regain control when he saw that innocent people were almost killed and Hulk saved them. That's when Hulk nailed him.

Bada.

I meant the people in the comics.

Originally posted by tjcoady

and after this issue, does anyone else just want to see Hulk just get his ass handed to him by the Sentry?

Yes. I just want the story to end.

Also, for the record.

Hulk beating strange trying to wrestle control from a fraction of Zom's power does not mean Hulk > Strange.

is it just me or does sentry look totally badass!at the end

he sounds apocolytically powerful!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by llagrok
We all realized it was going to happen. What is really outrageous about this comic are those retarded people who supposedly speak about the injustice that the Illuminati have brought them.

Good point. I mean if someone created a powerful clone that then killed by uncle I'd be so proIronMan.

Originally posted by llagrok
Ungrateful bastards don't realize that without them, the world would've been destroyed a million times over.

So they have license to do what ever they want?

Originally posted by llagrok
Who gave their lives to stop Onslaught? After the Hulk was stupid enough to make him almost unbeatable.

I seem to recall some idiot destroying Hulk's sanity and being the actual cause of that.

Originally posted by llagrok
Or rather, they say that the illuminati are responsible for killing the Hulk's wife. They're also responsible for him meeting her in the first place. No one is capable of making that connection?

You think people should be applauding the Illuminati for precipitating WWH? Seems like shooting Hulk into space was more of a bad idea than anything else.

Originally posted by llagrok
No one is able to understand that the guys who have saved the world tons of times, might not be the kind that would purposely murder their friends family?

Except for those times when they were directly involved in the deaths of their friends and family . . .

Originally posted by llagrok
Also, for the record.

Hulk beating strange trying to wrestle control from a fraction of Zom's power does not mean Hulk > Strange.

for the record "fraction" is not a given, who knows how it works or what it works... it's not like juggernaut/cyttorak, Strange was giving himself over to Zom, letting its power and rage infuse him and direct itself towards Hulk.

the astonishing thing was that The Hulk basically wasn't even remotely tested... he got a whole ripped into him that kept healing up within panels, and was healed up when he saved the humans.

Strange's magical defences and whatever Zom added to his durability proved to be as nothing to a +light+ barrage from Hulk... that's the disappointing part, that Strange and/or Zom/Strange couldn't put up a better defence 😐.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Good point. I mean if someone created a powerful clone that then killed by uncle I'd be so proIronMan.

What?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
So they have license to do what ever they want?

Not necessarily.

However, is Tony not responsible for superhuman individuals and such? Has he not been allowed to incarcerate tons of superhuman in the negative zone? SOMETHING THE PUBLIC WAS UNAWARE OF UNTIL SPIDEY CAME OUT, YET ACCEPTED?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I seem to recall some idiot destroying Hulk's sanity and being the actual cause of that.

You recall wrong.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You think people should be applauding the Illuminati for precipitating WWH? Seems like shooting Hulk into space was more of a bad idea than anything else.

Never said that.

They should trust the Illuminati's decision. The world would've been a safer place had the Hulk been sent away. They should still be applauding for the time that Kang was stopped, or hell for ever trying to stop Korvac.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Except for those times when they were directly involved in the deaths of their friends and family . . .

Good job at avoiding my comment there.

Whose family has the Illuminati ever purposely destroyed out of pure spite or evil?

Originally posted by janus77
😂 you really do have it in for The Hulk don't you?

for the record "fraction" is not a given, who knows how it works or what it works... it's not like juggernaut/cyttorak, Strange was giving himself over to Zom, letting its power and rage infuse him and direct itself towards Hulk.

the astonishing thing was that The Hulk basically wasn't even remotely tested... he got a whole ripped into him that kept healing up within panels, and was healed up when he saved the humans.

Strange's magical defences and whatever Zom added to his durability proved to be as nothing to a +light+ barrage from Hulk... that's the disappointing part, that Strange and/or Zom/Strange couldn't put up a better defence 😐.

So you think that a move Strange had to use because his hands were broken is more powerful than the best he can conjure up with his magic?

Originally posted by llagrok

So you think that a move Strange had to use because his hands were broken is more powerful than the best he can conjure up with his magic?

umm, if you mean that Strange had better options than releasing Zom into the world, then yes he obviously did at one point. he could have bfr'd Hulk before this thing kicked off.

he chose Zom (a being with power beyond anything Strange regularly dishes out to opponents) out of desperation and anger... and as Zom/Strange he found himself unable to put down The Hulk, even unable to make a lasting impression on Hulk. that's what is most astonishing.

Zom is beyond what Strange would have been unleashing on Hulk, if things had gone to Strange's plans, imo. Zom's power is too much for Strange to channel/control - as was evidenced by the building collapse - but it was (whatever level of Zom we saw) not beyond Hulk.

and when Hulk hit back, Strange was as good as dead. Strange didn't have anything - anything - that could withstand Hulk's offence, unlike Hulk re Zom.

Originally posted by janus77
you might want to rephrase that... unless you meant to speak nonsensically.

umm, if you mean that Strange had better options than releasing Zom into the world, then yes he obviously did at one point. he could have bfr'd Hulk before this thing kicked off.

he chose Zom (a being with power beyond anything Strange regularly dishes out to opponents) out of desperation and anger... and as Zom/Strange he found himself unable to put down The Hulk, even unable to make a lasting impression on Hulk. that's what is most astonishing.

Zom is beyond what Strange would have been unleashing on Hulk, if things had gone to Strange's plans, imo. Zom's power is too much for Strange to channel/control - as was evidenced by the building collapse - but it was (whatever level of Zom we saw) not beyond Hulk.

and when Hulk hit back, Strange was as good as dead. Strange didn't have anything - anything - that could withstand Hulk's offence, unlike Hulk re Zom.

You have no proof that Zom/Strange is beyond regular Strange.

You also seem to be good at making a lot of shit up. Strange failed to BFR the Hulk? He chose not to. Did you miss WWH: #3 somehow? Because most of us saw strange trying to reason with Hulk, while Banner was being sneaky.

Zom/Strange was beating the shit out of the Hulk until Strange wrestled control from Zom. That's when the Hulk fought back, when Strange was stopping. Until then, the Hulk was getting HIS ASS KICKED.

Leaves a lasting impression? Wolverine fought Onslaught but doesn't have any visible marks to show for it.

Wolverine > Onslaught? dur

Originally posted by janus77
you might want to rephrase that... unless you meant to speak nonsensically.

umm, if you mean that Strange had better options than releasing Zom into the world, then yes he obviously did at one point. he could have bfr'd Hulk before this thing kicked off.

he chose Zom (a being with power beyond anything Strange regularly dishes out to opponents) out of desperation and anger... and as Zom/Strange he found himself unable to put down The Hulk, even unable to make a lasting impression on Hulk. that's what is most astonishing.

Zom is beyond what Strange would have been unleashing on Hulk, if things had gone to Strange's plans, imo. Zom's power is too much for Strange to channel/control - as was evidenced by the building collapse - but it was (whatever level of Zom we saw) not beyond Hulk.

and when Hulk hit back, Strange was as good as dead. Strange didn't have anything - anything - that could withstand Hulk's offence, unlike Hulk re Zom.

You have no proof that Zom/Strange is beyond regular Strange.

You also seem to be good at making a lot of shit up. Strange failed to BFR the Hulk? He chose not to. Did you miss WWH: #3 somehow? Because most of us saw strange trying to reason with Hulk, while Banner was being sneaky.

Zom/Strange was beating the shit out of the Hulk until Strange wrestled control from Zom. That's when the Hulk fought back, when Strange was stopping. Until then, the Hulk was getting HIS ASS KICKED. Strange being angry? That's your own wild speculation, not relevant at all.

Leaves a lasting impression? Wolverine fought Onslaught but doesn't have any visible marks to show for it.

Wolverine > Onslaught? dur

Originally posted by janus77
umm, if you mean that Strange had better options than releasing Zom into the world, then yes he obviously did at one point. he could have bfr'd Hulk before this thing kicked off.

Originally posted by janus77

he chose Zom (a being with power beyond anything Strange regularly dishes out to opponents) out of desperation and anger... and as Zom/Strange he found himself unable to put down The Hulk, even unable to make a lasting impression on Hulk. that's what is most astonishing.

Originally posted by janus77

Zom is beyond what Strange would have been unleashing on Hulk, if things had gone to Strange's plans, imo. Zom's power is too much for Strange to channel/control - as was evidenced by the building collapse - but it was (whatever level of Zom we saw) not beyond Hulk.

Originally posted by janus77

and when Hulk hit back, Strange was as good as dead. Strange didn't have anything - anything - that could withstand Hulk's offence, unlike Hulk re Zom.

Originally posted by llagrok
You have no proof that Zom/Strange is beyond regular Strange.

You also seem to be good at making a lot of shit up. Strange failed to BFR the Hulk? He chose not to. Did you miss WWH: #3 somehow? Because most of us saw strange trying to reason with Hulk, while Banner was being sneaky.

Zom/Strange was beating the shit out of the Hulk until Strange wrestled control from Zom. That's when the Hulk fought back, when Strange was stopping. Until then, the Hulk was getting HIS ASS KICKED. Strange being angry? That's your own wild speculation, not relevant at all.

Leaves a lasting impression? Wolverine fought Onslaught but doesn't have any visible marks to show for it.

Wolverine > Onslaught? dur

some reasonable assumptions*:
1) Zom/Strange >> Strange. why? because Strange needed the power, why would he call up Zom if he didn't need him to enhance plain old Sorcerer Supreme?

2) Strange could have bfr'd Hulk before his hands got mangled, which is why he was seriously pissed off and why he had to resort to Zom. I never said, nor implied nor assumed that Strange couldn't bfr Hulk, Strange himself dismissed it because he knew that Hulk would come back stronger, harder and more vicious.

3) Strange "wrestled control" (more likely, he came out of his violent reverie) when he had endangered innocent bystanders. Hulk was neither incapacitated nor even dazed, Hulk had the wherewithal to save the bystanders, then he launched at Strange after Strange's blubbering about power, rage and lack of control.

4) Strange said he wasn't in control of the RAGE. read the text, you nitwit!

5) Strange couldn't DEFEND against a light barrage from The Hulk. Strange was as good as dead. nothing Zom/Strange did - NOTHING - left a lasting mark on Hulk. he was as good as new, before Strange had even reached the crumbling building.

thus:.
6) Zom/Strange wasn't achieving jack... and when Hulk fought back, wasn't strong enough to take what it could dish out - which isn't the case with The Hulk.

anyway, I always make a point of leaving you with a pithy remark, as you greet me with an erroneous one, so for now I say ... Huk Smash! 😈

Originally posted by janus77
honestly, I'd call you a half-wit but I don't think you measure up! 😐.

some reasonable assumptions*:
1) Zom/Strange >> Strange. why? because Strange needed the power, why would he call up Zom if he didn't need him to enhance plain old Sorcerer Supreme?

2) Strange could have bfr'd Hulk before his hands got mangled, which is why he was seriously pissed off and why he had to resort to Zom. I never said, nor implied nor assumed that Strange couldn't bfr Hulk, Strange himself dismissed it because he knew that Hulk would come back stronger, harder and more vicious.

3) Strange "wrestled control" (more likely, he came out of his violent reverie) when he had endangered innocent bystanders. Hulk was neither incapacitated nor even dazed, Hulk had the wherewithal to save the bystanders, then he launched at Strange after Strange's blubbering about power, rage and lack of control.

4) Strange said he wasn't in control of the RAGE. read the text, you nitwit!

5) Strange couldn't DEFEND against a light barrage from The Hulk. Strange was as good as dead. nothing Zom/Strange did - NOTHING - left a lasting mark on Hulk. he was as good as new, before Strange had even reached the crumbling building.

thus:.
6) Zom/Strange wasn't achieving jack... and when Hulk fought back, wasn't strong enough to take what it could dish out - which isn't the case with The Hulk.

anyway, I always make a point of leaving you with a pithy remark, as you greet me with an erroneous one, so for now I say ... Huk Smash! 😈

1. His hands were broken.

2. Him being angry is a SPECULATION, not a fact. What is a fact is that he was trying to reach out to the Hulk.

3. The Hulk was screaming when Zom/Strange impaled him and he was incapable of attacking until Strange stopped.

4. Hence why I said that he wrestled control back from Zom. Indicating that he wasn't in full control of himself. Duh.

5. Hulk couldn't defend himself either. He could HEAL, but not DEFEND. See the difference?

6. The Zom/Strange merge was finishing up when the Hulk started attacking. You're basically bragging about the Hulk being forced to use SEVERAL punches in order to bring down a simple human being.