World war hulk

As far as Strange/Zom goes. Is it supposed to be Zom in all his might, or just a small fraction of his power?

Also, it seems like the Hulk isn't able to differ between losing control yourself and having fanactics killing in your name. Holding Black Bolt responsible for Gorgon's actions is just like holding Jesus responsible for all those Christians who have killed in his name.

Nor does he seem to be able to tell the difference between being slightly depowered and losing all your abilities. Take Iron Man in example, there's a difference between depowering him and taking away his suit. Hulk was still Korg's equal on Sakaar, which puts him at around Class 100. A level which Reed was never able to compete with.

Also, how does punishing Danny who's standing up for his friend make any sense at all?

It wasn't full Zom. Strange starts to regain control when he saw that innocent people were almost killed and Hulk saved them. That's when Hulk nailed him.

Originally posted by llagrok
They attacked his neck one at a time and then broke it.

WWH:4 is going to be retconned like no tomorrow.

They also downgraded him to previous Power Levels,hence his Grey Color.

Thanks,nice talkin to you.

Oh and Hulk was owning them before the downgrade,ask Mess.

Originally posted by DEVILHULK
In WWH #4 Hulk beat Strange/Zom. Clean victory. Hulk > top tier. Hulk > Darkseid and Thanos. Finally the truth!

And hulk haters ? All dead for envy.

😕 Zom just about destroyed Hulk. It wasn't even a close fight. Strange froze up at the end after seeing that he had started to lose control.

Originally posted by llagrok
As far as Strange/Zom goes. Is it supposed to be Zom in all his might, or just a small fraction of his power?

I assume some fraction. At the end it was very little.

Originally posted by llagrok
Also, it seems like the Hulk isn't able to differ between losing control yourself and having fanactics killing in your name. Holding Black Bolt responsible for Gorgon's actions is just like holding Jesus responsible for all those Christians who have killed in his name.

Hulk didn't say or even believe a word of those statements though.

Originally posted by llagrok
Nor does he seem to be able to tell the difference between being slightly depowered and losing all your abilities. Take Iron Man in example, there's a difference between depowering him and taking away his suit. Hulk was still Korg's equal on Sakaar, which puts him at around Class 100. A level which Reed was never able to compete with.

I was more interested in how the control disks became mind control devices rather than ways to torture people.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
😕 Zom just about destroyed Hulk. It wasn't even a close fight. Strange froze up at the end after seeing that he had started to lose control.

Zom/Strange punched right through Hulk's chest but, Hulk was clearly not taken out nor particularly troubled - pace the 'heroism' mid fight - he was just doing an Ali "rope a dope" and letting Zom/Strange get his licks in first, and waiting for his turn after soaking it all up.

what Hulk then does to Zom/Strange, that seems a bit mild... Wolverine suffered more gratuitous violence than Zom/Strange did, yet Strange wilted under a few punches 😐.

Originally posted by janus77
didn't look like Zom was actually destroying Hulk, I felt Strange was still holding back/controlling the entity... or else, Hulk's seriously effin' durable.

Zom/Strange punched right through Hulk's chest but, Hulk was clearly not taken out nor particularly troubled - pace the 'heroism' mid fight - he was just doing an Ali "rope a dope" and letting Zom/Strange get his licks in first, and waiting for his turn after soaking it all up.

what Hulk then does to Zom/Strange, that seems a bit mild... Wolverine suffered more gratuitous violence than Zom/Strange did, yet Strange wilted under a few punches 😐.

Well Hulk got knocked over and thrown around pretty badly. It's reasonable to say that he intended to smash Strange since he's one of Hulk's targets and he'd just attacked Hirom.

The fight didn't turn around until Strange suddenly decided that the whole "I'll channel Zom though my body and start hitting people" plan was really really really stupid.

oh, I'm not saying that Zom/Strange didn't knock Hulk around, including punting him a fair distance, but that it was never likely to achieve much. the fullest extent of Zom/Strange's physical attack was the first blow, the one that ripped right through Hulk. the other stuff was nothing much, in comparison. yet Hulk not only recovered fully but had his wits about him at all times and never once buckled under any of Zom/Strange's attacks upto the moment when Strange regained his self control - the moment Hulk had to save those people from Strange's Hulk-punt demolition job.

if the fight had gone on, I'd be wondering at what more Zom/Strange could do, physically, since that clearly wasn't even remotely enough to take out The Hulk.

I just read WWH #4 and its pretty kool. I love this version of the Hulk. Making the heroes kill each other is priceless. Good stuff. The only thing with the whole event is that I dont care about none of the tie-ins(besides Incredible Hulk). With Civil War I read every single tie in but with this one I just glance at the issues. I like the fact that they didnt went cheesy at the end and Hulk gave it thumbs down to their survival. Sadly I think it will end in a very cheesy way maybe involving the Sentry calming Hulk therefore making him beatable.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I assume some fraction. At the end it was very little.

Hulk didn't say or even believe a word of those statements though.

I was more interested in how the control disks became mind control devices rather than ways to torture people.

I thought they always were.

When norrin was disked, he specifically said something like "I don't want to do this to you, my friend."

Originally posted by janus77
oh, I'm not saying that Zom/Strange didn't knock Hulk around, including punting him a fair distance, but that it was never likely to achieve much. the fullest extent of Zom/Strange's physical attack was the first blow, the one that ripped right through Hulk. the other stuff was nothing much, in comparison. yet Hulk not only recovered fully but had his wits about him at all times and never once buckled under any of Zom/Strange's attacks upto the moment when Strange regained his self control - the moment Hulk had to save those people from Strange's Hulk-punt demolition job.

if the fight had gone on, I'd be wondering at what more Zom/Strange could do, physically, since that clearly wasn't even remotely enough to take out The Hulk.

damn I can't believe Hulk actually told Reed to kill Tony...how is the marvel universe ever going to be the same after all this shit.

Originally posted by AcousticDoc
damn I can't believe Hulk actually told Reed to kill Tony...how is the marvel universe ever going to be the same after all this shit.

I'm not sure. A better question.. Can ANYONE really stop WWH?

Originally posted by DARKLORDCAEDUS
I'm not sure. A better question.. Can ANYONE really stop WWH?

Who's the second best magic user in marvel behind strange? Surely he/she could do it (if they didn't bother with the stupid killing or banishing thing). In DC there are many other sorcerers who are almost as powerful as fate such as Phantom stranger, Zatanna and etc.

scans posted in the Hulk Respect thread, enjoy.

Ok so yesterday I happened to find a copy of the first WWH in my comic book store and decided to buy it. Just to see how the event started.

And I now really have no idea when this is taking place, compared to say Spider-man. In WWH 1 Spidey has the black suit, Tony says that every outlawed unregistered superhero will get pardoned if they help out. But we already know that Spidey changes back to the red and blue before he ever gets any pardon. So is this simply a continuity error intentionally made so that WWH wouldn't spoil the fact that Spidey got his original costume back? Also he seemed pretty jolly and happy compared to how he should be with the Black Suit. So if not for the Black suit I would say that WWH takes place a while after the current Spidey plot-arc, but that black suit really mess things up.

Originally posted by Morridini
Ok so yesterday I happened to find a copy of the first WWH in my comic book store and decided to buy it. Just to see how the event started.

And I now really have no idea when this is taking place, compared to say Spider-man. In WWH 1 Spidey has the black suit, Tony says that every outlawed unregistered superhero will get pardoned if they help out. But we already know that Spidey changes back to the red and blue before he ever gets any pardon. So is this simply a continuity error intentionally made so that WWH wouldn't spoil the fact that Spidey got his original costume back? Also he seemed pretty jolly and happy compared to how he should be with the Black Suit. So if not for the Black suit I would say that WWH takes place a while after the current Spidey plot-arc, but that black suit really mess things up.

Yeah Thor is also weird.

Blake told him that he would be needed to save the world soon (or something like that) in Thor 1, I naturally assumed that it was WWH. However if he came back before WWH, why wouldn't he just show up and stop Hulk before he could even start the war?

Most likely I guess the Thor comics will soon send him away or something so that he is unable to come to save Earth at once,

Originally posted by Morridini
Yeah Thor is also weird.

Blake told him that he would be needed to save the world soon (or something like that) in Thor 1, I naturally assumed that it was WWH. However if he came back before WWH, why wouldn't he just show up and stop Hulk before he could even start the war?

Most likely I guess the Thor comics will soon send him away or something so that he is unable to come to save Earth at once,

I'm almost certain the comment about how he needed to save the world was deliberately vague rather than referring to a specific crossover.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Well Sentry is off "time to be god"